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Edit: Sorry I see @Davidmk already said exactly this about half way down! The perils of replying on a phone!
Just re-reading your original post. Sorry if we’ve already said this above but it seems the fader might be configured fader-controls-colour if you are seeing that graduated colour change across the fader range. Default operation would be the colour would snap at about 5% of fader. Don’t set the fader to ‘controls colour’ in the playback setup leave it at default (controls intensity) and maybe change the trigger threshold down to say 2% (but you’ll have to make very sure your faders don’t get accidentally nudged just off 0 otherwise that playback is now controlling colour!).
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A couple of videos that might be of use:
as @Davidmk says, we’re both FLX users but I hope the main (and only) translation you need to do from us is the name and presence or absence of specific console keys. I’ve been looking at Orb and Frog2 recently which are pretty old consoles and they are very close to what I get on my FLX.
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If your fader is NOT set to control colour then the colour will trigger at 5% (configurable) of the fader. On the way down when you get to fader 0 the fader will no longer control colour (or anything) and will release control to some other cue or playback unless you disable Release on Lower. You get at these settings with Setup+Playback button.
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Hi.
Move on Dark can only work when there is a cue in-between where the fixture is dark and the desk can prep the new position or colour etc for the next time it's used. If your cues are consecutive then there is no opportunity for the desk to do "move on dark". Maybe you were expecting the desk to "dark" the fixture, move it, then relight it? This is not move on dark. If you wanted that, either you would need to programme that specifically or some moving lights can "dark" themselves when moving (I'm not sure if they relight afterwards though!).
If the fixture fades out to home, this sounds like a programming issue in that you've not told the fixture what to do in that subsequent cue.
There was another user recently who had a similar query but with zoom on a fixture. I wonder if my reply might help (mentally change "zoom" to "position" when reading my comments!).
If this doesn't help then maybe you could explain a little more or even upload your showfile?
I don't know where the Zero88 folk are at the moment, maybe there is a trade show on. Your query should be something we users can help you out with if you can work with us a little.
There are a great set of Training Videos for the FLX consoles. When you get time I would watch through them. If you want to jump in on Move on Dark, here is the video that might help you out:
Here's the whole playlist on YouTube:
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Want to share the issue here in case any users can help?
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I know it's Rackmaster, but have a check to see if any attachments to this thread help. I've checked my service info stock and I don't have anything for Rack6.
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Maybe the Memories button. For Solution console that’s what that manual page says.
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There are several ways to avoid this I think.
- Do a ‘go’ on the playback before raising the fader (where colour fade time is set to 0)
- Programme fixture defaults to black R=G=B=0 rather than white as they are in the library
https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/controlling-fixtures/defaults
- Programme a two cue playback where cue 1 sets your fixtures position colour etc then a second that fades them up. Probably this is the least convenient though!
Other users who busk more may have better suggestions but I didn’t want to leave your question unanswered for too long!
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Hi Phil
Not sure what buttons you have on your console but CLEAR+Fader Function is how you do it on FLX. Probably you have equivalent buttons on your LeapFrog.
https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/cues-playbacks/playing-back-cues/triggering-releasing-playbacks
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36 minutes ago, Charlie Newman said:
Ah that's annoying, maybe a future feature?
User macros is one of the FLX vs FLX S product differentiators. FLX S of course doesn’t have physical UDK buttons which is one common place to put user macros (but they can also of course be triggered from cues).
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10 minutes ago, Jon Hole said:
Yes, at the same time the 3-pin became a 5-pin, all new FLX S consoles shipped became 2 Universes. We've not shipped a 1 Universe console for a long time now (of course, our distributors might have had stock).
You should speak to Stage Electrics then as they are listing S24 as 1U and 2U at vastly different prices.
https://www.stage-electrics.co.uk/Products/Search?search=FLX s24
Send the enforcement team round!!! (i.e. Tyler 🤣)
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6 minutes ago, Jon Hole said:
Absolutely... it's a difficult one. The "official" answer is that DMX has "slots" not "channels"... but we're not going to start using that term.
Edward and I discussed at length, many times. We vaguely settled on the terms that a "Fixture" has a "Channel number" and uses a block of "DMX Channels"... but I'm sure there will be inconsistencies dotted around.
I think in Setup it says ‘Channel’ when ‘Fixture number’ is used at other times (verbally, maybe in documentation) because ‘Channel’ there gets confused with ‘DMX Channel’ in discussion and when ‘DMX Address’ is not necessarily intended. Confusing for sure and not all of Z88’s making 😆.
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1 hour ago, Davidmk said:
@kgallen I'm guilty of this too, there's a clash of terminology - I try to say "DMX channel" when I mean that and leave an unqualifed "channel" to mean desk channel.
Indeed. I had a long discussion with Edward about conflicting and inconsistent terminology around ‘channel’ a couple of years back (when he was doing his vast set of ZerOS videos). Just as you state above.
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29 minutes ago, pierotec said:
so with release 8 the second port should also open?
You should read up the manual because as @Davidmk eludes you can already use it.
In its most basic form you could put out the same universe on both connectors - I do that with my FLX to send one cable to dimmers/flown LED fixtures and the other to groundrow LED fixtures.
But even your 1U S24 you can spread those 512 channels across two or more universes, don’t have to use them all on one universe - although probably that’s the most usual method, but FLX/S doesn’t constrain you to.
Manual link:
https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/patching/available-channelsNote @Jon Hole I think the manual text has an error, I think it should say: ‘The total number of used channels across the 64 universes must not exceed the number of ->channels<- your console is licensed to output.’
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34 minutes ago, Charlie Newman said:
Woo congrats!
I wonder if you could setup a macro to use for going forwards and back a cue? I mainly use a fullsize FLX so probably not the best help hahaFLX S doesn’t allow user macros and no UDKs either to put one on. But good lateral thought!
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On 10/10/2024 at 9:47 PM, Charlie Newman said:
haha, good luck!
It did work. Programmed the show on my FLX with syntax bish-bash-bosh no problem.
Loaded the showfile into their S24, worked like a charm. Sat with the op last night during the dress rehearsal, he drove, I stood by to help.
He made a decent fist of it given it was his first time ever. Jumped a few cues - double tapped GO or was a bit eager. Was a bit of a pain going back a cue or two as S24 doesn’t have arrow keys and no USB keyboard attached. I set shift-go as pause but the ‘go back’ doesn’t work unless you’re running a cue, pause then step back. Chap kept going into Z screen as wasn’t using that button as a shift key. In the end I suggested he use the touch screen carefully to back step cues or bring in a keyboard.
Let’s see if the phone rings later in the week… ‘Hello… he hasn’t turned up, can you…’
Thanks to @Davidmk and @Jon Hole for help and support on this endeavour.
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@Davidmk you may well be right but I think default FLX S24 come as 1U/512 unless they specifically bought the 2U version (or FLX S48). Maybe that changed over time (like the 3-pin became a 5-pin) but Stage Electrics still list a 1U FLX S24.
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Yes but wait for ZerOS 8.0 to come out (few weeks maybe) when your S24 will become 4 universe for free.
As announced here:
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Select fixtures.
Make the colour however you want. You could start with an existing palette then modify with the encoder wheels.Then RECORD and touch an empty palette location on the Colour screen.
Same process for position, beam, shape (but on those generally parameters are separate).
This is in the manual.
https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/palettes/recording-palettes
@van den abbeele Eric can help you with a French manual.
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27 minutes ago, Jon Hole said:
Release software? Ah, that's no fun. Where's your sense of risk and jeopardy?! 😜
They were on 7.14 so not too bad..! I think the console is pretty new though, so might have come with 7.14 on it!
(I realise I've been typing 17.x rather than 7.x! Idiot...)
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1 hour ago, Davidmk said:
So I had to run the show myself.
My fear too... [chap doing LX op is a (potentially unreliable) shift worker, never done it before - the guy doing the sound is a Year 9 school kid, who seems perfectly fine, but... he's 13 - ergo there is no-one in tech FOH with any notable experience].
I've updated their FLX S24 to 7.14.3 the same as my FLX, so in theory we're good to go...
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37 minutes ago, Charlie Newman said:
Ah thanks, wasn't sure whether this existed anymore
It’s in their manual page so I hope so! My email to that address hasn’t bounced at least!
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@van den abbeele Eric Eric, you must know the process by now surely, you're an experienced/established FLX user. Just email (below) Zero88 the PDF manuals, with the DMX map, for each fixture and ask them to build a fixture profile and add to the next library. If you've got one you've built for your own use, then let them know they just need to build for the library release. If you need one building for you for an immediate need then let them know you'd like them to email back to you (and add to the library for the future). I've done this recently for a fixture - I built it myself for immediate use, but sent them the manual and asked them to build "properly" for the next library release. I sent them my ITF file from the Fixture Tools in case that gave them a head start.
https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/patching/add-fixtures/missing-fixtures
FixtureSupport@zero88.com
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On 9/30/2024 at 8:52 AM, Davidmk said:
Doing a play for an AmDram I was confronted with an S48. I unplugged it and plugged in my FLX so I'm no wiser than you really.
I had a meeting with the director last night to put together a lighting cue list (I’m panic called in as they’ve been let down last minute and nothing is prepared!). The cue list is pretty long. I think I’m going to chicken out and programme on my full FLX - because I know I can be faster with syntax and I’ve access to eg Lee Filters - than I would be on an FLX S where I’ll feel like I’m programming with an arm tied behind my back. Jon has confirmed that the FLX showfile should run perfectly well on the S24 (obviously staying within the S24’s capabilities) because some other chap will actually op the shows using their S24 after I’ve done a handover at the dress rehearsal. Let’s hope that actually works otherwise I’ll be in double trouble!
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Can you see if the Capture files on this page work:
https://www.vari-lite.com/global/products/zeros-software
I can’t remember if it’s a custom version of Capture used or if it’s a standard Capture download with a demo Capture project and Zero88 showfile. I’ve asked this before (a few years ago - but I bought Capture in 2019).