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Hi. Move on Dark can only work when there is a cue in-between where the fixture is dark and the desk can prep the new position or colour etc for the next time it's used. If your cues are consecutive then there is no opportunity for the desk to do "move on dark". Maybe you were expecting the desk to "dark" the fixture, move it, then relight it? This is not move on dark. If you wanted that, either you would need to programme that specifically or some moving lights can "dark" themselves when moving (I'm not sure if they relight afterwards though!). If the fixture fades out to home, this sounds like a programming issue in that you've not told the fixture what to do in that subsequent cue. There was another user recently who had a similar query but with zoom on a fixture. I wonder if my reply might help (mentally change "zoom" to "position" when reading my comments!). If this doesn't help then maybe you could explain a little more or even upload your showfile? I don't know where the Zero88 folk are at the moment, maybe there is a trade show on. Your query should be something we users can help you out with if you can work with us a little. There are a great set of Training Videos for the FLX consoles. When you get time I would watch through them. If you want to jump in on Move on Dark, here is the video that might help you out: Here's the whole playlist on YouTube:

My problem is move on dark works ok when say the cues are 2 or 3 cues apart. When the cues are consecutive the fixture is on as it moves to its final position. Also when the cue is finished the fixture fades out to the home position. I am working on the master cue stack. Forward tracking is on. I have tried doind the same thing as you would on a sub master using snap fade pressing the button and putting the fader up. The desk froze. Reply for dummies please. Thanks for your help. The fixture in question is Chauvet Rogue R2 Wash Moving Head

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Hi I’ve been trying to get your tech support but told by a robot that no one is in at the moment. But that appears to be the same in other departments. When will you be in again So that I can get support with a problem. Please

I know it's Rackmaster, but have a check to see if any attachments to this thread help. I've checked my service info stock and I don't have anything for Rack6.

Hi all, I'm having a strange continuous issue with our FLX where after I have saved a playback, if I set the desk to black and then push up the playback fader, sometimes the desk either doesn't seem to have saved every fixture within that playback, or by lowering and raising the fader again it will produce different results each time. Sometimes a few fixtures will appear, lower and raise again and other fixtures will appear. If anyone has any help or advice this would be appreciated. As an FYI, it is a brand new desk (purchased in April) but this issue seems to have been present since we had it. Thank you in advance Nathan

Hi guys, I have a number of Zero88 Rack6 dimmers. We don't use them often but I have one that is not working correctly. I'm sure I can fix it ok (I'm a qualified engineer) but it would sure help a lot if I could get hold of a schematic for it. Does anyone have one they can share?

Last shot then. Separate intensity from colour. Use either the channel faders or a sub master with only intensity recorded on it and then one or more faders without intensity for colour. If you are using colour mixing then follow the instructions for that exactly. If you are using one sub per colour or subs with colour cues then set defaults to black (which you should only see with no subs up). Remove colour from fader actions so that the last will always take precedence and make sure the colour faders release on lower. Putting up an orange sub followed by a magenta one should result in full strength magenta as soon as that fader moves past 5% and back to orange as soon as it is lowered.

Thanks for the suggestions. I don't currently have access, but in the past I have tried all the fader action options one by one to see if they helped and none of them achieved what I'm asking for here. Of course, the permutations and combinations are almost infinite so it's quite possible I have missed the magic combination. That's why I'm asking here.

Another thing you could check out is the playback settings. (Here in the manual.) On the general tab, see if the fader action includes colour, try removing it (this is the default on FLX but maybe not on yours) and also look at the trigger level on the raise & lower tab and try setting it to 0% or 1%

This looks useful but the links are broken. 😞

Good to know there's something that works, at least. My hunch is that setting the default to black would create more problems than it would solve, though. To be honest, this feels like a bug. I'm quite happy with the default being white, or even warm white to match old incandescents if there are lots of those still in the mix. But this is not a "default" situation. I've told it exactly what colour I want and unexpectedly it's bringing other colours into the mix. I realise that "adding" one colour to another or "multiplying" two colours isn't a simple thing. But in this case there's only one colour that matters. I asked someone who is familiar with the board about this and they said they open the program window and scroll a long way to the right to find the fixtures concerned and adjust the starting colour there. It solved a problem I had in the main stack but I couldn't get it to work on a submaster and in any case it takes far too long to be a general solution, though useful to know.

It would look like that, any intensity of black is still black, however, if the fixture was previously given a colour then it would light up in that colour. Maybe change the default after you've done your colour set up. I can assure you it does work, I do it all the time. Although, to be fair, I never use the channel faders, just ch @@ / record mff syntax. When changing defaults (or Home) values you use record, not update which seems counter intuitive to me.

Maybe the Memories button. For Solution console that’s what that manual page says.

Has anyone actually tried this? I imagine it would result in the fixture not responding at all (by default) when intensity was raised above zero, which would be a bit of a problem. That's probably why it didn't seem to be accepted when I tried it.

That looks promising. Is "Fader Function" what I would call the "flash" button under each "submaster"? (Giving away my age here!). If it's a single button on the main console I don't think I have that.

Thanks, those suggestions are all interesting. I'm not keen on the two-step processes (the first and third bullets) because they will will slow things down too much and be a bit error-prone. Also they're not reversible, I will still see colour changes on the way down. Programming fixture defaults to R=G=B=0 is something I did try and it didn't seem to work. I tried various ways but none seemed to accept the zeros - the changes didn't "stick". It seems like the most promising approach though. Can I do this without affecting the desk for everyone else? The theatre has a "standard rig" and I don't want to disrupt that in any way. Will saving the setup to a USB stick before I make any changes then restoring it at the end achieve this? I love the colour mixing idea and I will give it a try but the setup is a bit too complicated to just memorise and then implement, I'll need to print it out and wait for the opportunity to program it and have a play with it when I'm the only one in the theatre, which is rare. I could play with it at home if I could see a simulation of the results as in the video, but I think getting that costs quite a bit of money, am I right?

@kgallen is spot on with his suggestions, especially setting default to black - it would make sense for that to be the default for the default setting (@Jon Hole are you listening?) for all LED fixtures. In addition, look up colour mixing here this is a good way to busk because it uses less faders, gives you control over fade times and is generally more versatile than one fader per colour. Another approach is to record all your colours as cues in a stack (with colour fade times, say 2sec) and use goto cue to select them. This is what I do but it probably won't suit everybody as you have to remember the number for each colour. You could get over this by using OSC but that's a whole new skill to learn for an occasional user (not even sure you can do it on a Leapfrog).

There are several ways to avoid this I think. - Do a ‘go’ on the playback before raising the fader (where colour fade time is set to 0) - Programme fixture defaults to black R=G=B=0 rather than white as they are in the library https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/controlling-fixtures/defaults - Programme a two cue playback where cue 1 sets your fixtures position colour etc then a second that fades them up. Probably this is the least convenient though! Other users who busk more may have better suggestions but I didn’t want to leave your question unanswered for too long!

Hi Phil Not sure what buttons you have on your console but CLEAR+Fader Function is how you do it on FLX. Probably you have equivalent buttons on your LeapFrog. https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/cues-playbacks/playing-back-cues/triggering-releasing-playbacks

I occasionally use a Leapfrog 48 desk at a small theatre in the UK, and it has recently (I think) gained the ability to disable "page handover" on "playbacks" (previously called "submasters"). It's a brilliant feature but it seems to have a fatal flaw - there's no quick way to clear them all. Or is there? I can't find any documentation about this. So that's my question - how can I quickly clear all the active playbacks, if they are scattered around the 20 available pages? For context, I use playbacks quite often to add effects to live music shows - things like spotlighting soloists, changing colours to follow the mood, pulsing for a disco effect, chases and so on. The problem is there are only 10 of them and I typically have more effects than that. There are 20 pages though so in theory 200 effects are available to me, but until now "page handover" meant only 10 could be actively in use at any one time. Then I discovered someone had disabled the page handover feature (I think) and now I can bring up multiple effects on any of the 20 pages. Fantastic! The only problem is, at the end of the song I faded to black using the master fader and tried to clear everything ready for the next scene by pulling down all 10 playbacks and pressing CLEAR a couple of times and it didn't work! I seem to be required to cycle through 20 pages of playbacks looking for the active ones and clear them individually. Meanwhile the audience is in the dark and getting restless. That's unacceptable and so the feature is useless. Surely there must be a way, though? I would have expected multiple CLEAR presses or perhaps SHIFT + CLEAR or something would do it, but I couldn't find a way (in the time available, I only have occasional access). Am I missing something?

I'm an occasional user of a Leapfrog 48 desk at a small theatre in the UK, and I have a problem with the behaviour of playbacks (aka submasters) that has been bugging me for some time and I wonder if anyone can help. The venue has a line of Chauvet Par-Hex 12 fixtures in the wings each side of the stage and in front of the proscenium that are very useful for colour effects in live dance shows. I program a range of colours into the playbacks and work them live during the show to change mood or pulse in time with the music (no time to program stacks of cues, the "dress rehearsal" is the first time I get access). The issue I have is that as I bring up the playback fader, the colour changes from (dim) white at the bottom to the desired colour at 100%. I want it to be the same colour at the bottom as at the top, just dimmer. Like a conventional incandescent lamp with a filter in front of it. For example, if I program R=100%, G=0%, B=0% I see a red light as expected when the fader is at 100% but when the fader is at 10% I see something like R=10%, G=10%, B=10% when what I expect is R = 10%, G=0%, B=0%. I hope that's clear. How can I achieve this? I tried things like forcing everything to black, programming that then adding in just the red channel and programming that but it makes no difference. In fact none of the settings I have tried changing (including things like playback properties, tracking settings, HTP vs LTP, fade durations etc), have made any difference at all.

Hi @Ian_p, We don't have a release date yet. I'd like to think it would be during November. Jon

I’m about to program up our December play, and I’ve had to add a couple of additional dimmers and led drivers, taking me over the S24 48 fixture limit. I usually program down on the stage with my S24 then transfer the show file up to the full size FLX in the control room for the performance which doesn’t have the fixture limit. I’ve been awaiting the fixture limit increase for the S24 and I wondered will this be available in the next few weeks?

Hello Davidmk I understand, it works. Thank you very much for this information.