[Update vs Remove]

Hi Edward,

Thanks for taking the time to explain

5 hours ago, Edward Z88 said:

However, this then becomes a question of tracking. If you did this update as Cue Only, the next cue will now have data added in, to tell the fixtures to be in the same values, as if the previous cue had never been updated. So in this scenario, an UPDATE > SmartTag > Track Forwards would have been required.

 

I think this is where I'm going wrong so to speak. I shall try the track forwards option.

I rarely use remove, mainly because I have to look up how to do it each time and I'm scared of breaking something, where update seems a simpler process.

If I keep having the same issue I'll grab a copy of the show file if you don't mind taking a look to see if you can figure out what I'm doing wrong!

Thanks

 

[Update vs Remove]

Hi all,

Sometimes, probably through copy and paste I end up with position data in a cye for some moving lights which aren't on. Through the trick I learnt recently on the forum of going into a cue after copying it and using update with smarttag on, I can remove this position data.

I was just wondering what are the pros/cons of using update or remove.

Say I had a cue where some movers were on in a set position, and I canged my mind and didnt want them on, would going into that cue, turning them off and updating the cue be good enough or is it better to use the remove function. What are the differences?

Sometimes I have had to go into cues before and after the cue I have made changes to and update them to get them move on Dark sequence to work properly. I know its got something to do with the way I'm programming, just want to understand, why, and what I can do differently so pregaps save some time and paracetamol!

Thanks

[Which takes preference?]

That's fine, just takes some timing practise when firing through half dozen or so cues in quick succession.

Thanks for all your help as always!

[Which takes preference?]

One more question I've thought of, I've noticed the cues are triggered on the release of the go button for playbacks (not the master). Is there a way to have them triggered on the press of the button, not the release?

[Which takes preference?]

Perfect thank you!

[Which takes preference?]

6 hours ago, Edward Z88 said:

Latest beats highest.

Thanks both, that's perfect.

In my example, once I have triggered playback 1, fir that particular song, do I also need to raise its playback to run through the cues on it or not as sometimes (probably because I was doing it wrong), it doesn't be have, lights don't come on when I press the button and I've found that raising the playback solves it.

Thanks

[Which takes preference?]

I'm doing a bit of programming for a small music concert we're having next week.

My plan was to have my master playback with the basics on, house lights etc and some simple states for some of the songs and then for a couple of songs, program a couple dozen cues on different playbacks for different songs.

I did the first song on playback 1 and created a cue in my master playback that triggers playback 1, then I can move through the cues for that song using playback 1's button, then another cue in the master playback that releases playback 1 at the end of the song.

My question is, if I set playback 1 to latest takes preference, as obviously I want any fixtures to follow programming in this playback for that sing, but my master playback is still set to highest takes preference, which does take preference.

Let me try and explain a little better.... if fixture 1 is set to 80% in my master playback, and set to 20% in playback 1, what will happen when playback 1 is triggered as that is set to lastest but the master is set to highest?

Thanks

[Confused recording a pallete]

Think I'd found the relevant bit in the manual...

"Then tap Record , and tap the attribute button of where you wish this palette to be stored. For example: Record
Colour . In the Record Options window that opens on the external monitor, you can manually add other attributes
into the palette. To open the Record Options window on the internal touchscreen, press and hold Record, and then tap
the attribute key. To add the other required attributes, disable SmartTag, so it has a blue stripe, rather than red, and
then use the attribute filters along the bottom of the Record Options. To add position in for example, double tap 
Position , so that it has a green stripe. Then type the palette number followed by enter, to record. You will notice this
palette is now annotated with the attribute letters of the stored attributes."

So if I record into a shape pallette, it will only record the parameters that fall under the shape category, even with smarttag on.

 

 

[Confused recording a pallete]

Hi all,

Yesterday I was having a play with some lights and tried to rescind a pallete.

I set my light us how I wanted them, so selected a gobo, prizem, zoom, focus and was trying to record that into a pallete.

I reposed record, had smarttag enabled and touched an empty pallete on the shape pallete window. I thought this would record everything I had done into that pallete but the pallete only had a S in it, not BS as I had altered both beam and shape parameters, intact I had also moved the position but wasn't worried about recording that but a P didn't show in the pallette window either.

If I recorded it as a snapshot, then chose and empty pallete it did as I expected and I got ICBSPE in the pallete window.

Anyone any idea why I didn't get all the parameters recorded when I used smarttag (the light were at 100%)

I know its something I did wrong or wasn't doing.......

 

Thanks

[OSC commands]

Just as a small update to this.

Today I had some time to "Play" and was testing automating the opening of a presentation/awards show.

Using companion, I got 1 button on the streamdeck to start a video playing in Vmix, adjust the fader levels on my Allen & Heath Qu 16 to set the level for the above video through the PA and trigger my flx to go to the next cue in the playback to set the lighting state I wanted.

Using the OSC commands on the zero88 guide its took no time at all to get companion and the streamdeck talking to the flx.

Supper job on implementing this!

[Gateway 4 giving poor quality DMX]

Just thinking out the box as I don't really know about signal strengths but....

Have you used a terminator on the last fixture in the chain?

Perhaps the strength coming out of the desk is not strong enough and you don't need one but the strength coming out of the gateway 8 is strong and is causing some bounce back/reflection?

[Pause button flashing]

Ahh right,

But yes, having programed and done another show tonight I did have smart tag disabled

[Pause button flashing]

40 minutes ago, Jon Hole said:

SHIFT+RECORD is a one-off SnapShot. I wonder if this functionality could be customised?

Hi Jon,

Yeah I suppose that would work as long as the following cue after the snapshot one doesn't require any move on dark features to have run?

[Pause button flashing]

Thanks Edward, I haven't checked that smarttag was disabled, will do tomorrow.

It's something I always forget to turn back on after disabling to stop an effect etc.

Wish there was a way to have it auto re-enable after turning it off as 99% of the time I want it on, but forget when recording the next cue

[Pause button flashing]

Hmmm, but this is just after pressing Record -> master playback button

Using tracking made if that helps?

[Pause button flashing]

Hi all,

Can someone remind me why the pause button is flashing after recording a cue. I can figure it out!

Thanks

[Old desk for spares]

8 hours ago, iank99 said:

@Techie_v2 Tricky call to be honest - there's no certainty that the desk isn't badly damaged by water ingress or not (whether inspected or not) but just as a "for instance" - say the processor & mainboard needs replacing - that's £600 plus VAT, if the screen needs replacing - that's £690 plus VAT before it's even been established that the rest of the desk is OK. A new FLX S is around £1700 plus VAT and comes with a 3 year warranty.

Exactly why we went with the insurance claim for a new one!

I'll do some more testing with it, just a bit treppid that the thing will catch go bang or catch on fire!

[Old desk for spares]

Thanks for the replies. I'm not looking to get it up and running for ourselves. If our main one does fail I could get hold of one pretty quickly in an emergency. Just interested if it's worth anything to get some much needed funding for things like new fixtures etc.

As Edward says there isn't really a market for spares so I wouldn't even know what price to put on it.

[Old desk for spares]

So a year or two ago we had a leak over a weekend which drenched our FLX.

Insurance claim was made and we got a new one, however the insurance company didn't request we do anything with the old one.

After taking it apart to inspect the damage and dry it out, the desk still powers on but I haven't tested it any further than that. There was some corrosion and black marks on some of the internals so I deffinitly wouldn't trust it. Sopke to support and a few local industry people and a new desk was deffinitly the way to go vs repair/replacement parts.

So my question is, where do we stand and is there a market, if we wanted to try and raise some capital by selling it as spares on a generic auction type website?

Thanks

[confusion about blocked values]

On 11/7/2023 at 9:40 AM, kgallen said:

Nor did I, until Edward explained to me a while back. Likewise it makes sense once you know, and the UPDATE (SmartTag on) to get the console to recalculate tracking is the way out of it. (I think there might also be a global "unblock this cue stack" too, but I've never used it - too scared!).

Nor did I  untill now. I ofter get issues with movers not MOD'ing and thought it was down to copying cues. Will try the update trick, so copy X to Y then go into Y, tap update, make sure smart tag is on (red stripe) and tap the playbacks button?

[FLX s48 network connection]

Do the lights flash on the etherbet socket when the flx is plugged in?

[FLX s48 network connection]

Have you tried plugging anything else into the port on the router to see if it gets an ip address. A laptop or desktop?

[Stopping on an cue that has an auto follow]

Thanks! Worked a dream!

[Stopping on an cue that has an auto follow]

Could some please remind me how to goto a cue that has an auto follow so I can edit it without the auto cue happening (I still want the auto cue to happen when running the show, just need to edit the preceeding cue)

I could just turn the auto off and make the edit but there's like 20 want to change and it would be quicker to goto that cue and stop rather that turn it off and back on again.

Thanks

 

[Unpatch and repatch]

Yeah I went into setup, deleted the fixture that added it again albeit on the same address, firstly to see if that would work, I was going to add it back on a different address but adding it back on the same address seemed to work.

Thanks