Richard Elv Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 Bonjour Est-il possible d'étendre les fadeurs sur Flx avec une autre console s24 par exemple ? Avoir les mêmes fonctions qu'un Wing mais au moyen d'une S24 une fonction maître esclave cordialité Richard Quote
Archie D Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 Hi @Richard Elv, Welcome to the Zero 88 Forum! Ultimately, it is highly recommended to use a ZerOS Wing to expand the available faders that can be used at one time on your console. However, using another console such as the FLX S24 is possible, but quite limited in comparison to a Wing. For instance, with this method, when you bring up a fader of a fixture on the FLX S24, it won't automatically be selected on your main FLX console, whereas on a Wing it interacts with the console and does select it automatically (depending on the 'Auto select channels' setting in SETUP -> Settings -> Operational -> Auto select channels). You also won't be able to do record, delete, SETUP + Tap playback button etc using the method described below, DMX Input. For using a FLX S24, you will need to configure one of your DMX output ports on the main FLX to be a DMX input instead. To do this, go to SETUP -> Universes, and tap 'DMX in' on the DMX output you wish to be a DMX input instead. On the FLX S24, you can patch in a bunch of dimmer channels (I recommend patching in the maximum available on ZerOS 8.0, which is 96). Then, connect the first DMX output port on the FLX S24 to your defined DMX input on the main FLX. You will need an adapter for the correct XLR connector to link the consoles together as they are both female XLR outputs. After this has been done, you now have a 'DMX In' column in your Fixture Schedule within SETUP. This lets you define a DMX In address for each individual fixture patched in, so when the console receives DMX data from the defined DMX input port (e.g. I raise channel 1 on the FLX S24 which has DMX address 1 -> FLX receives that data -> Fixture 200 in the FLX has a DMX input address of 1 -> Fixture 200's intensity raises), it will respond as configured. For playbacks, you can set a playback's DMX input address via SETUP -> Triggers -> DMX In. From there, you can tap 'Add' to add a playback to configure ready for DMX Input. In the example below (image attached), I have set Playback 1 on a FLX to be raised and lowered with DMX input address 25 coming from a FLX S24. I have done this so my first page of dimmer channels on the FLX S24 control fixtures, whereas the second page controls playbacks. (1-24 fixture control, 25-48 playback control). If you wish to use the Channels/Playbacks switcher button on the FLX S24, you could set up 96 dimmer channels (4 pages of dimming), use the first 72 (3 pages of dimming) as fixture control, but individually record each of the remaining 24 dimming channels at full as a playback each (playback 1-24), and on the main FLX you set the DMX Input address for each of your playbacks to the last page of dimming on the FLX S24. If you require control of more than 24 playbacks, you could go back further than the last page of dimming and use some of the third page too of the FLX S24. Overall, the ZerOS Wing has been designed to interact with the FLX or any other ZerOS console, and was produced for the reason of adding extra faders that can be used at one time. Using DMX Input is rather limited, so my recommendation is to use a Wing. But, I hope this helps, and if you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask. Apologies for not translating, I figured if I did then this message would be colossal. Archie Quote Archie - Student Student of lighting design & operation Owner of: Phantom ZerOS Unlock Dongle, SolutionXL, Frog 2, JesterML, Juggler (x3), Level 6, Sirius 24 & 48 (x2), Sirius 500, Lightmaster XLS, Fat Frog, Diablo, Orion, Alphapack 2, 4x Zero 88 Focus 650 Fresnels
Richard Elv Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Posted 3 hours ago Bonjour. Merci pour cette réponse claire et complète. Où peut-on acheter une clé de déverrouillage pour zérOs phantom et un d’ongle usb/xlr compatible en France? Je suis professionnel. Est ce que le Wing est utilisable avec zerOs phantom comme si il était raccordé sur Flx? Pour être complet dans mes demande j’ai besoin de temps en temps d’ėtendre ma Flx avec quelques Fader supplémentaires et je comprend d’après vos explications que le mieux c’est le wing. Mais j’ai également besoin bien plus souvent d’une autre console indépendante. Je cherchais une solution pour éviter d’avoir à multiplier les produits. Un grand merci pour vos réponse. cordialement Richard Quote
Archie D Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Good afternoon @Richard Elv, You can purchase a Phantom ZerOS Unlock Dongle from one of the distributors, or from here on StageGear. For outputting DMX with Phantom ZerOS, the Unlock Dongle must be plugged into your computer. If it is unplugged, DMX output will stop until the dongle is present again. Regarding methods of actually getting DMX out of your computer from Phantom ZerOS, you have two options. The first, is to output over the network using protocols such as ArtNet or streamingACN. The second, using a USB to DMX device (ones which support the ENTTEC protocol). Personally, I recommend the ENTTEC DMX USB Pro, which is generally considered to be a very high quality device and can be configured straight from ZerOS in SETUP -> Devices. Each of these devices will output one full universe of DMX. When running Phantom ZerOS as a FLX, you have access to 16 full universes of DMX (8192 DMX channels) over 64 patchable universes. If you're already used to using FLX, using a Phantom ZerOS Unlock Dongle will be ideal as it will give you the front panel you are already familiar with - just virtually. This can be used with a touchscreen, along with the external monitor for multi-touch functionality. Yes, the ZerOS Wing can be used with Phantom ZerOS running on a PC via USB as if you were using it with a physical console, therefore you will be able to use it across both your FLX and Phantom setup. Using a ZerOS Wing is the best option to give you more faders at one time. I hope this helps, Archie Bonjour @Richard Elv, Vous pouvez acheter une clé de déverrouillage Phantom ZerOS auprès de l'un des distributeurs ou directement sur StageGear. Pour la sortie DMX avec Phantom ZerOS, la clé de déverrouillage doit être branchée à votre ordinateur. Si elle est débranchée, la sortie DMX s'interrompt jusqu'à ce qu'elle soit reconnectée. Pour récupérer le signal DMX depuis votre ordinateur avec Phantom ZerOS, deux options s'offrent à vous. La première consiste à utiliser le réseau via des protocoles tels qu'ArtNet ou streamingACN. La seconde, à utiliser un convertisseur USB vers DMX (compatible avec le protocole ENTTEC). Je recommande personnellement l'ENTTEC DMX USB Pro, généralement considéré comme un appareil de très haute qualité et configurable directement depuis ZerOS dans le menu CONFIGURATION -> Appareils. Chacun de ces appareils génère un univers DMX complet. Lorsque Phantom ZerOS est utilisé comme FLX, vous avez accès à 16 univers DMX complets (8192 canaux DMX) répartis sur 64 univers patchables. Si vous utilisez déjà FLX, l'utilisation d'une clé de déverrouillage Phantom ZerOS sera idéale car elle vous permettra de retrouver virtuellement le panneau avant que vous connaissez déjà. Vous pourrez l'utiliser avec un écran tactile, ainsi qu'avec un moniteur externe pour une utilisation multitouch. Oui, la ZerOS Wing est compatible avec Phantom ZerOS installé sur un PC via USB, comme si vous l'utilisiez avec une console physique. Vous pourrez donc l'utiliser à la fois avec votre configuration FLX et Phantom. L'utilisation d'une ZerOS Wing est la meilleure solution pour disposer de plus de faders simultanément. En espérant que cela vous soit utile, Archie Quote Archie - Student Student of lighting design & operation Owner of: Phantom ZerOS Unlock Dongle, SolutionXL, Frog 2, JesterML, Juggler (x3), Level 6, Sirius 24 & 48 (x2), Sirius 500, Lightmaster XLS, Fat Frog, Diablo, Orion, Alphapack 2, 4x Zero 88 Focus 650 Fresnels
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