Davidmk

Shouldn't do intensity unless an intensity level was set in the programmer. I do this a lot - I light bands, different one each gig and I use moving heads as "specials" to light musicians at the front (the ones that are liable to moving out of a fixed light). I set most of the parameters in defaults, setup an intensity only fader and a second one that 'fades' the zoom, pan & tilt to a position upstage. If they step back out of their light then I just nudge that fader up and it looks like a follow spot. Doesn't help when they go sideways but it gets them most of the time.

Shouldn't be a problem. First you will want a playback for the intensity of the fixture that also sets all the parameters (including the minimum height). Nothing special about that, check the manual if not sure. Now the fun bit. Select the fixture in the programmer but do not turn it on (fixture no. then enter). If you need it on to set this then use the playback fader you recorded. Don't set the intensity on the programmer. Now set the maximum height that you want. De-select all beamshape parameters except this one then record to a 2nd playback. Now, apply the magic, hold down the setup button and press the 2nd playback's button - you should get a screen full of setup stuff for that playback. Under Fader Controls, make sure beamshape is selected (and nothing else). I expect someone from Z88 will give you a better explanation but, in the meantime, give the above a go.

I don't have an S24 either and i don't work for Z88 but I routinely do this on a full FLX and I've had this problem (but fixed it). It looks like one or more of your colour playbacks is recording values, probably zero, for the one or both of the other colours. For example, you may have recorded the red playback with red at full but green and blue at zero then, when you raise red it forces green and blue down (even if their playbacks are up). This won't happen if you follow the instructions exactly but I'd suggest you delete all three playbacks then try again but this time make sure that the colour you want is at full and is selected (blue) and the other two are not (i.e. not blue, doesn't matter what value they are showing). You have to make sure of this msnually because, by default, any change to colour defaults to selecting all the colours - even when you only changed one.

Hmm. Maybe that's a reason for considering a v2. Bit busy at the moment but perhaps I could take a look at that. I just used Windows R, G & B but I could do something like allow the "seed" colours to be input as RGB values. I've also been looking at hue/saturation.

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This topic got me thinking. Since you can upload any image to use as the colour picker I wondered if I could get Excel to generate images that are suitable. Attached you will find examples of a first attempt at this. Now, be warned, I haven't tried these in my desk yet and the proportions haven't been adjusted to match the LCD screen so it may not work as I expected (I don't think there is any way for an image file to damage anything though). There are two picker images. The two way picker has a "rainbow" down the left side and the same, but offset on the right. The intermediate colours fade from the colour on the left to the one on the right. The four way picker has different colours in the four corners, the intermediate colours in left and right columns fade from the top colour to the bottom one then the rows fade from left to right. I have also included the Excel spreadsheet so you can try some for yourself. Note that this does include macros and, while I am confident that my laptop is malware free and the code doesn't access anything outside of Excel, I accept no responsibility for any damage it may cause or be perceived to cause on your systems. Feedback on the usefulness of this would be very welcome as would suggestions to improve it. To use, set all the cells to no fill first then, for a 2 way picker, set A1 to A16 and P1 to P16 to various fill colours then click the 2 way button or, for a 4 way picker, set the four corners to different fill colours (e.g. RGBW) and click the 4 way button. You can use the Windows 10 snipping tool to save the resulting screen as an image that you can load on your desk. Picker.xlsm

Ditto Uriahdemon above (relatively new to FLX and mainly busking bands) To make the most of the available MMFS, I put several cues onto some of them (and on the master playback). That way I can select the individual cues by holding down the Go button and typing the cue number. This works best where each cue "replaces" the others (i.e. you would never want them at the same time). For example. One MFF has a cue for each of the gobos on our moving heads (including "open"). Another has various colour states for the LED PARs (with a 3s colour fade on each cue). The cue doesn't start until you let go of the Go button which I find very convenient - I can get something ready and take my finger off at exactly the right moment. The downside is you can only select a cue on one playback at a time so you have to do them quickly if you want a lot of things at (nearly) the same time. You can improve on this a bit using the remote switches (see my earlier post on them) and/or a MIDI device to fire - single cue - playbacks on other pages. PM me if you'd like to discuss busking for gigs, I'm still optimising how I do it on FLX but I've been lighting professional bands with a couple of other desks for nearly 20yrs so I'm pretty familiar with the problems.

Free assignable soft button page - Ooo, yes please!!!

Files sent The start up was in progress then the screens in the snap shots came up and start up halted.

The error ocurred during start up. Had to power cycle to get the desk up. Requested files will be in the mail shortly.

Had a problem when I started up my desk yesterday. Debug file attached.Switched off & back on, saved the debug file and the desk behaved for the rest of the evening. Startup show file & screenshots available if required. debug_9-10-2019_16-35-09.zdb

In order of priority (to me)... High - Faders screen able to display any playback page, not just the one selected on the main desk. I use a wing (obviously not on the same page as the main desk) plus a midi keypad to fire playbacks on yet another page - very annoying being unable to see these without changing pages on the main desk (I always forget to change back for one thing). If view+page up/down or view+cursor left/right (or up/down) aren't doing anything then they might be ways to select the page (sorry FLX-S users) but I expect you'll think of something. Medium - Midi notes/cues. As it stands this operates on the currently viewed playback. Would it be possible to add an option in setup to select a particular playback instead. "Currently viewed" is just too vague for my purposes. Low - I've had the occasional problem when I have inadvertently hit channels/playback, page up or page down. Might be nice to have a way to lock these (press and hold for a number of seconds maybe).

Hi Tristan. If you are still looking, I sent my number by PM.

(This is all assuming I have the right manual of course 🙂)

It probably comes up as strobe under beam parameters. Try setting it to 255 or 100%. Refer to the fixture manual to see why. EQLED068_Manual.pdf

No expert on this fixture but have a look at what value ch7 is set to. A common trap (with non-LEDs) is that the shutter has to be set to something non-zero for any light to come out. Some LED fixtures seem to emulate this behaviour. You will also need one or more of the RGBW channels to be non-zero but I suspect you've thought of that.

Old Frog user. I used a key fob remote and receiver, set up a cue for each fixture then used the key fob to step through them when focusing. It was a three button fob so I used one as "shift" to get four options... reset to 1st spot cue, reset to 1st wash cue, next cue and previous cue. Saved a lot of walking along the catwalks. Not necessary now, with the remote app.

I'm guessing Edward"s reply will reference the fact that other desks can only have 6 remote switches.

That is useful to know. Thanks. Not quite as useful as a direct button on the console but great if your soldering proves to be unreliable mid show.

Suggestion for a lower tech alternative to that described in "FLX Remote Button Box - PCB Layout By jw-lighting, July 3, 2015" Remote Switches for FLX.pdf

Worked out the cue editing problem. My cues don't have any intensity information (this is delberate), they do have colour parameter information so it makes no sense to edit the cue fade, it does make sense to edit the colour fade. When I selected the colour fade time I could edit it, no problem. Now my colours fade in but they mix with the colours already there rather than replacing them. Suggestions welcome but I'm going to look at what I tagged when I recorded the cue and also whether it is doing HTP or LTP. I'll keep you posted on that. I had another, vaguely related, problem with colours in my gig this evening - I have a number of playbacks set up for colour mixing. After taking the Red playback to zero I found the actual level remained high. I had a similar problem with blue a bit later. Viewing the cue on screen with "source" selected showed it was the relevant colour playback even though the fader was at zero. Manually releasing the playback solved the issue (but did cause a sudden colour change on stage). Not sure what I did that led up to it and once I'd released the playback it all worked normally and didn't happen again. So, lots for me to work out before my next gig. 🙂

Thanks Edward My main purpose for using midi notes is to change colours on my LED fixtures when busking. Ideally each change would cross fade with whatever is there already and, when released, cross fade back to the (unreleased) original state. It is these two aspects that I am experimenting with at the moment. I have something similar going on with UDK's for moving head positions although they do seem to snap off rather than fade (which is good enough for positions for the time being - I can look at that again later). I'm fairly new to FLX and Zero OS so I'm probably doing it all wrong but... Note velocity seems to make no difference at all. It's not what I really want anyway, just saying. Playback fade times don't seem to make any difference either. Cue fade times might be the answer but I can't seem to edit times on existing cues making experimentation rather a drag.

Thought I had already uploaded this but coming back to the forum I saw no trace of my reply so trying again. Attached notes describe what I am trying to achieve myself, how far I've got and how I've done it. If it works for you then perhaps we could collaborate on the rest. Of course it would be if the Zero 88 people take an interest, perhaps to correct what I've put or to fill in the gaps maybe even to help with the rest of it. Midi Notes ZeroOS 7.9.5 on FLX.pdf

Hi I'm trying to get Midi Notes working and I've got as far as being able to trigger the play backs I want. I'll get my desk out, check how I get that working and get back to you. Give me an hour or two.

Little thing I noticed on the DMX display on my FLX I'm probably the only person on the planet who has fixtures patched on U2 but not on U1. After upgrading to 7.9.5 and loading my saved show file I went off to play with remote switches and Midi notes. As I was working from home, with no physical rig to see if things were working, I switched to the DMX output screen. Imagine my dissapointment to find that not only was it displaying U1, there was no button to switch to U2. (I did read the release notes, I was expecting to see U2 and only U2.) You'll be pleased to hear that, by patching a single dimmer channel on U1, the U2 button appeared and I could see my outputs so anyone else affected should be able to use thatvwork-round.