Archie D

Is it CSC you are thinking of? (https://www.ctrelectronics.co.uk/csc-show-control.php)

OSC is really useful from my perspective for when you just want to run your show off one main control centre, but not having lights + sound (and possibly projection) all programmed in on a singular machine. If that one machine goes down, you've lost all lights, all sound and all projection. Whereas, if you run lights separately with the computer controlling sound and projection, while a lighting console is controlling LX separately, if the main computer goes down then you still have light on stage and can control that independently. Something like this can be done with OSC via QLab (with Network Messages) however QLab does require a license for this, or using something like Multiplay (another sound + projection cue-based tool) as @Neil Macmillan has used, is another option that is free to use (but still very very good!). So, if you are looking for a cue-based solution and you use a Mac, QLab is probably the best option (you could have a "magic sheet" as @Davidmk has, using Cue Carts within QLab). These "cue carts" can fire Network Messages over OSC to trigger certain cues on the LX console, like a soundboard but for lights. However, if you use Windows, Multiplay is also a good option (not sure about cue carts on it though). If you're on a Mac and instead of using QLab, you want to use Multiplay, you could run it via Wine but this won't run natively on your Mac and I'm not sure if OSC would work with how Wine handles things, but it could be worth a try. Unfortunately QLab on Windows isn't an option as it is developed primarily on the Apple platform, and so relies on Apple infrastructure for features such as AppleScript integration. QLab Network Message Cues - https://qlab.app/docs/v5/networking/network-cues/ QLab Cue Carts - https://qlab.app/docs/v4/general/cue-carts/ If you do use Multiplay, I very much point you to Neil's video! (I used it myself when having a play with OSC over Multiplay to my Phantom ZerOS setup, so thank you very much Neil for making that video). Best of luck with what you want to do with OSC.

--Rewritten for clarity-- Thank you, I do look forward to the news of this, apologies that I was no use of advice. My issue, with the help of others, was thought to be a section of a ribbon cable had come partially disconnected or loose, not allowing data to come through fully to the LCDs.. if not at all while still being back-lit. Not sure if that is the case or not but we shall hopefully find out, I still have yet to open my Jester ML yet again to find the issue.. been a bit busy over the holidays! Issue hasn't happened in some time though, still keeping an eye out for it.

That is true.. I received a Juggler which had no PSU so I was stuck with the single one from the JesterML I have.

There was one on eBay a few weeks ago with a flight case, I think it has gone though. To get a genuine power supply, it could be a possibility to buy or search for a really really beaten up old desk, use that power supply and either grab spares from that desk/try to restore it?

Not sure what you could do with this or whether it's any help, but here is the original supplier and model of switching power supply that Zero 88 used for their desks. https://sinpro.com/en/product/show.aspx?num=441&find1=8 https://sinpro.com/en/product/pro_search_show.aspx?num=441&page=2&spcnum=4955

Is it possible that this was caused (even though you downgraded to a previous version than 8.0.0) by the show file being an 8.0.0 show file (e.g. you created the show file while on v8.0.0) instead of a show file of the version you downgraded to? I'm not entirely sure but could it possibly be the case?

Probably looks slightly different from when you saw it if the website had a partial redesign on the frontend after you saw it.

Thank you, I might have a go then. Best wishes, Archie

Thank you very much for your advice. At the moment, I don’t feel confident enough to do this by myself so I think I will leave it for now, try and get my confidence up and look about doing it when I’ve got a bit more experience or I can ask somebody to help me. Thank you for your advice, I really appreciate it. Kind regards, Archie

Don't worry, with the page you provided me with the 'common' subdomain, there are workarounds 😉 https://backstage.zero88.com/a-z Thank you very much.

Hi, an update. Not too successful, but partially. We lay the console down, unscrewed the six access screws holding the front panel on, (i also put the earthing wriststrap on before doing this), and upon opening the console there was no obvious disconnection of the ribbon cable but we pushed down the clips to make sure it was secure. One was solid, the other flexed a bit on pushing. We then closed the console up, securing one screw top and bottom in the middle of the set of screwholes and turned it on. All worked perfectly. So we turned it back over, put the four remaining corner screws in, turned it over, plugged it back in, the fault was back. Do you think I need to replace the clip that had some flex in it? Do you think that is the issue with the intermittent fault on the LCD displays?

Ordered yesterday, arrived today. I'll see if I can do anything tomorrow with the desk. Thank you again for the advice.

Thanks for your reply @kgallen, that's something great to go off if I take a look inside. Do you use an earthing wristband thingy when you open up your Fat Frog?

Just an update - I've turned on the desk again to see if the issue had gone (due to intermittence) and I am now presented with this on the bottom LCD: However, when tapping C, B or P buttons, the top LCD goes back to normal instead of the offset lines as shown below: