Archie D Posted Sunday at 08:57 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:57 PM Hi all, hope you are well. I was just curious.. from when to when were the Jugglers being manufactured? Usually, on a page (for example the Jester Series https://www.vari-lite.com/global/products/jester-series) it tells you when they were manufactured, this case being 2008-2017 for the ML range. However, on the Juggler page (https://www.vari-lite.com/global/products/juggler) it does not mention the manufacture date anywhere. I am aware that the Jester Series superseded the Juggler, but does anybody know this information per chance? Many thanks for any info you can supply me with. Archie - Student Learning: - Zero 88 > Physical Solution (ZerOS v7.14.4) - Zero 88 > Physical Jester ML (JesterOS v4.1) - Zero 88 > Physical Juggler - Zero 88 > Physical Jester 24/48 (JesterOS v4.1) Using a Phantom ZerOS Unlock Dongle - learning and using emulated ZerOS consoles.
kgallen Posted 20 hours ago Report Posted 20 hours ago Juggler was a ‘simple’ 2-preset desk so I don’t think it was superseded by Jester which is a programmable desk. I think the lineage was more like: Level series -> Juggler Alcora/Elara -> Jester Illusion -> Jester TL, ML Sirius -> Frogs Stage Electrics had Juggler in stock (albeit clearance) earlier this year. I’ve not seen Jesters on sale new for a long time. So in answer to your question, Juggler could have been current until 2021/22 timeframe I recon. The datasheet says ‘(c) 2018-2021 Signify’ as a copyright date. The Juggler manual says 2005. So it was around for some time. Maybe search on the forum to see if Jon mentioned a discontinue date.
Archie D Posted 10 hours ago Author Report Posted 10 hours ago 10 hours ago, kgallen said: I don’t think it was superseded by Jester Strange, I did hear somewhere that the Jester did, although it just could be my head playing tricks on me. You are probably right in what you've presented here with the line-up of consoles, so I appreciate the confirmation. 10 hours ago, kgallen said: Juggler was a ‘simple’ 2-preset desk It also can store memories (or 'steps' as it calls them, each step being part of a 'sequence') as well as having the ability of being in 2 preset mode. I've had a play with mine at home and although rather simple in the operation of it, I admire its simplicity. 10 hours ago, kgallen said: Maybe search on the forum to see if Jon mentioned a discontinue date. Thank you for the information you have provided me regarding the data sheet and the manual dates, I think I can try and work on figuring out dates with the info provided. I will continue to do some more digging on the forums as you have advised. Thank you again and have a lovely day! Archie - Student Learning: - Zero 88 > Physical Solution (ZerOS v7.14.4) - Zero 88 > Physical Jester ML (JesterOS v4.1) - Zero 88 > Physical Juggler - Zero 88 > Physical Jester 24/48 (JesterOS v4.1) Using a Phantom ZerOS Unlock Dongle - learning and using emulated ZerOS consoles.
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