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Hello, today I went on a new show and I had strange things .... 0 / Before starting my new show I did a "Reset Desk" of the FLX! 1 / I enter a fixture 1 (dimmer chanel) with for example the DMX channel 150. I want to add a second DMX channel eg 180. (function add DMX) All is well. And I enter a last number, for example the 210, and when I validate the addition of the last channel. I find myself with 150 180 210 and 211 ... I delete everything thinking I made a syntax error. I start again, with 150, 180 and 210 in DMX channels and I find myself again with 150 180 210 and 211 ... I do not understand how the 211 can come in the group alone without being added with the numeric keypad of the FLX ... 2 / Conversely, sometimes when I'm adding DMX numbers, For example, 205 Then the 209, no worries. And if I want to add for example the 221 I have a display that the number is already used ... I cancel the addition to look on the table DMX what it is ... And the number is not utlise ... I repeat everything from the beginning and I have the same sentence that the number is already used ... The only solution is to use a new fixture to add the DMX channel and more ... But that limits me the choice of fader .... 3 / Last thing Last night before arriving today at the show I had a reset desk to erase everything. This morning when I plugged the console, and I plugged in it I realized that all the fixtures erased yesterday had returned and so I had to redone a reset desk ... End of my questions and strange things ... what should I do to solve the various worries that I have seen this morning and today. thank you so much Eric VDA -------- Bonjour, aujourd 'hui je suis reparti sur un nouveau spectacle et j'ai eu des choses etranges.... 0/ Avant de commencer mon nouveau spectacle j'ai fait un "Reset Desk" de la FLX ! 1/ je rentre une fixture 1 (Dimmer chanel) avec par exemple le canal DMX 150. Je veux rajouter un second canal DMX par exemple 180.(fonction add DMX) Tout va bien. Et je rentre un dernier numero, par exemple le 210, et lorsque je valide l'ajout du dernier canal. je me retrouve avec 150 180 210 et 211... J'efface le tout pensant avoir fait une erreur de syntaxe. Je recommence le tout, avec 150, 180 et 210 en canaux DMX et je me retrouver de nouveau avec 150 180 210 et 211... Je ne comprends pas comment le 211 peut venir dans le groupe tout seul sans etré ajouté avec le pavé numerique de la FLX... 2/ A l'inverse, parfois lorsque je suis en train de rajouter des numeros DMX, Par exemple le 205 Puis le 209, pas de soucis. Et si je veux rajouter par exemple le 221 j'ai un affichage que le numero est deja utlisé... J'annule le rajout pour regarder sur la table DMX ce qu'il en est... Et le numero n'est pas utlisé... Je recommance tout depuis le début et j'ai la meme phrase que le numero est deja utilisé... La seule solution est d'utilisé une nouvelle fixture pour ajouter le canal DMX en plus... Mais cela me limite le choix des fader.... 3/Derniere chose, Hier soir avant d'arriver aujourd'hui au spectacle j'avais fait un reset Desk pour tout effacer. Ce matin quand j'ai branché la console, et que je l'ai branché je me suis rendu que tous les fixtures effacées hier etait revenues et donc j'ai du refaite un reset desk... Fin de mes questions et petites choses etranges... que dois je faire pour resoudre les différents soucis que j'ai pu constater ce matin et aujourd'hui. Merci beaucoup Eric VDA

Hello Edward, I think that the solution to have a user manual is precisely to have something that is organized and logical for a new user. Because the user manual that can be downloaded is organized by chapter. And if this notice is out of date, (certainly due to the fact that ZerOs versions are faster than the time to write and explain the evolutions ...) it still allows to have a good idea of the operation of the FLX. But I really think that allowing the new user to have an up-to-date and easily accessible user manual, should be an additional argument coming to you rather than in other brands. Indeed how many users can tear their hair to find solutions ... And how many brands have only the record of version 1, so that users have no other choice of having to find evening another console and especially disadvised the console. Or try to do the best without the possibility to use all the thing with efficacy... I think FLX deserves to be known and to sell more. In France there is the GRAN MA 1, 2 which is on the basic console and nobody dares to go elsewhere ... Even if it is a real gas plant ... So I think for many shows that I can see with a Gran MA that is only used 10% ... So having an even more functional FLX on one side (another post on the effects and color management) and a record always up to date and easy to access would be a great idea to go ahead and make the FLX can sell the most possible ! a good day

Hello John and Edward I come back to my idea of fashion in jobs evolutive on the internet. (A kind of "WIKIPEDIA Zero 88") A place where you could with the community put the FLX mode of use. (This can also serve as a basis for "XL Solutions and Solutions") I could visit more quietly and I see you have an active community. One could imagine linked to this forum this base of instructions that you could create then add some active and informed members of this community to help you to evolve this notice during the updates and thus to have an effective help for the new users. So I think some of the time you spend answering on the forum could be reduced. But most of all, a lot of the questions would actually have an answer. In addition to some complicated topics or not clear enough in this leaflet, nothing prevents you from putting the links to topics on forum that you might consider as effective and useful. Thus it represents a sum of work at the beginning, but which would then be limited to the evolutions only. I also think it would be a big plus on the markerting side. Because many users users are also available to help. What do you think ? Too heavy to do? A good day to everyone Eric -- -- -- -- Bonjour John et Edward Je reviens sur mon idée de mode en emplois évolutif sur internet. (Une sorte de "WIKIPEDIA Zero 88") Un endroit ou vous pourriez avec la communauté y mettre le mode d'emplois de la FLX. (Cela peut servir aussi de base pour les "Solutions et solutions XL") j'ai pu visiter plus tranquillement et je vois que vous avez une communauté active. On pourrait imaginer lié à ce forum cette base de notice que vous pourriez créer puis ajouter quelques membres actifs et avisés de cette communauté pour vous aider à faire évoluer cette notice au fil des mises à jour et ainsi avoir une aide efficace pour les nouveaux utilisateurs. Ainsi je pense qu'une partie du temps que vous passez à répondre sur le forum pourrait être réduit. Mais que surtout une bonne partie des questions auraient de fait une réponse. De plus sur certains sujets compliqués ou pas assez claire dans cette notice, rien de vous empêche de mettre les liens vers les sujets sur forum que vous pourriez juger comme efficace et utile. Ainsi cela représente une somme de travail au debut, mais qui ensuite serait limité au seules evolutions. Je pense aussi que cela serait un gros plus du coté markerting. Car many users users are also to have a they have as a help. Qu'en pensez vous ? Trop lourd à faire ? Une bonne journée à tous Eric

Hello What is missing or which I have not yet found how to do (...): Side Effects (motions / colors / chases) - More options so that you can have presets in the additional motion options for aotomatic. Also have more possible color variations (Automatic and LED) and also chases. (Traditional and LED) In fact when one has the time to program multiple things it is not a problem. (That's what I'm sure I can do with Capture) But in case the time is lacking it is there to have a few things programmed in addition would be good. Colors: Second lack is on the side of the colors and therefore the proposed choices. - it is for projectors working in Red Green Blue White Amber. The fact that all 5 colors can not be directly taken into account in color presets makes the FLX try to make amber with RED GREEN BLUE BLUE at best ... MAis miss the real amber . And when you go on amber through the encoder wheel, and then you have to play amber and white colors to find the right tone. So I think an evolution in the future would be that the color mixer can take into account what the projector can do. And currently more and more projectors have the included RGBW + A + UV ... Preprogrammed positions: The other lack is to have some preprogrammed positions in the automatic. There is HOME. But I think having a position at 25 °, 45 °, 65 ° and 90 ° could be a plus. And then a random position that could serve as a basis for an effect. A bit like when you have ACLs running through the scene. Thus a random creation could save time instead of having to position each projector ... FLX 2 (One day can be a hardware update) The other big plus would be to have a second video port to be able to have in front of the eyes directly the window of cues on big screen and on the second screen the access to the 4 color windows, effect, etc ... Saves time and access faster to be more productive. And finally when to have an evolution of the FLX is to have more encoder wheels, as on Magic Q. And so to access directly certain settings rather than having to scroll the screen. the aspect encoder wheels additional could be included in a Wings option with small LCD screen (as on the consoles sounds from Yamaha, Berhinger, Midas and co) Notice Last lack, it is listed PDF record, with an updated version to explain all the new features that arrive over the versions. So I think it would be positive to have the opportunity to have a WEB document that can easily be transformed to update the user manual with the software of the FLX. That's with the summer coming, I will be able to study more fully the functions of the FLX and thus better know it but also started small video films to present this great product in French. thank you Eric ----- Bonjour Ce qui manque ou que je n'ai pas encore trouvé comment faire (...): Coté Effets (moouvements / couleurs / chases ) - Plus d'options afin de pouvoir avoir des préréglages dans les options de mouvements supplementaires pour les aotomatiques. Egalement avoir plus de variations de couleurs possibles (Automatiques et LED) et aussi des chases. (Traditionnel et LED) En fait quand on a le temps de programmer de multiple choses c'est un pas un soucis. (C'est ce que je vais pouvoir certainement faire avec Capture) Mais dans le cas ou le temps manque c'est là que d'avoir quelques petites choses de programmées en plus serait bien. Couleurs : Second manque c'st du coté des coleurs et donc des choix proposés. - c'est pour les projecteurs qui travaillent en Rouge vert bleu Blanc Ambre. Le fait que l'ensemble des 5 couleurs ne puissent pas directement etre prise en compte dans les préreglages de couleurs fait que la FLX essaye de faire de l'ambre avec ROUGE VERT BLEU BLANC au mieux ... MAis passe à coté du vrai ambre. Et lorsque l'on va sur l'ambre par le biais de la roue codeuse, et ensuite il faut jouer en l'ambre et le blanc couleurs pour trouver la bonne tonalité. Ainsi je pense qu'une evolution dans l'avenir serait que le melangeur de couleur puisse prendre en compte ce que le projecteur peut faire. Et actuellement de plus en plus de projecteurs ont le RGBW + A + UV d'inclus... Positions préprogrammées : L'autre manque c'est de pouvoir avoir quelques positions préprogrammés au niveau des automatiques. Il y a HOME. Mais je pense que d'avoir une position à 25°, 45°, 65° et 90° pourrait un plus. Et ensuite une position aléatoire qui pourrait servir de base à un effet. Un peu comme lorsque l'on a des ACL qui parcourent la scene. Ainsi une creation aléatoire pourrait faire gagner du temps au lieu de devoir positionner chaque projecteur... FLX 2 (Un jour peut etre une mise à jour matériel) L'autre grand plus serait d'avoir un second port video pour pouvoir avoir sous les yeux directement la fenetre des cues sur grand ecran et sur le second ecran l'acces aux 4 fenetres couleurs, effet, etc... Gains de temps et acces plus rapide pour etre plus productif. Et finalement quand à avoir une evolution de la FLX c'est avoir plus de roues encodeuses, comme sur les Magic Q. Et ainsi d'acceder directement à certain reglages plutot que de devoir faire défiler l'ecran. l'aspect roues encodeuses supplementaire pourrait etre inclus dans une option Wings avec petit ecran LCD (comme sur les consoles sons de chez Yamaha, Berhinger, Midas et cie) Dernier manque, c'est coté notice PDF, avec une version à jour pour expliquer toutes les nouvelles fonctions qui arrivent au fil des versions. Ainsi je pense qu'il serait positif d'avoir la possibilité de pouvoir avoir un document WEB qui puisse facilement se transformer pour mettre à jour la notice d'utilisation avec le logiciel de la FLX. Voilà avec l'été qui arrive, je vais pouvoir etudier plus à fond les fonctions de la FLX et ainsi pouvoir mieux la connaitre mais egalement commencé des petits films vidéos pour présenter ce super produit en Français. Merci à vous Eric

Hello This Tuesday was another show. And outside the worries of MMF buttons that are triggered from time to time all alone, (because I prefer for now keep the ON option on the movement of the fader and the setting of the button) for the rest everything works well and gives satisfaction. The small gaps are at the level: - Effects, more option in order to be able to prescribe additional movement options for the aotomatic as well as color variations (Automatic and LED) and also chases. (Traditional and LED) In fact, when you have the time to program, it's not a problem. (That's what I'll certainly be able to do with Capture) but in the case where the time is lacking it is there to have a few things programmed in addition would be good. Second lack - it is for projecteus working in Red Green Blue White Amber. The fact that all 5 colors can not be directly taken into account in color presets makes the FLX try to make amber with RED GREEN BLUE WHITE at best ... MAis misses the amber. And when you go on amber, well then you have to play amber and other colors to find the right tone. So I think an evolution in the future would be positively that the color mixer can take into account what the projector can do. And currently more and more projectors have the included RGBW + A + UV ... The other lack is to have some preprogrammed positions in the automatic. There is HOME. But I think having a position at 25 °, 45 °, 65 ° and 90 ° could be a plus. And then a random position that could serve as a basis for an effect. A bit like when you have ACLs running through the scene. Thus a random creation could save time instead of having to position each projector ... FLX 2 (One day) The other big plus would be to have a second video port to be able to have in front of the eyes directly the window of the cues and on the other screen the access to the windows colors, effect, etc ... Gains of time and faster access to be more productive. And finally when having an evolution of the FLX is to have more encoder wheels, as on the Magic Q. And so to access directly certain settings rather than having to scroll the screen. Then the aspect encoding wheels and more could be included in a Wings option with small LCD screen (as on the consoles sounds from Yamaha, Berhinger, Midas and co) see you soon for other returns ... So I love FLX ! It s really a good desk !

Hi Edward After turning a little bit in FLX and Mac I find the solution. So I will come back later in this topic for giving information about FLX and Mac OS Solution and helping other users. Thank for your help Eric

So I Can see on FLX Notice that ArtNet window can give me access to IP adress. But on FLX Window, it s not same option that on the Manuel... I can't find how to configure IP ArtNet adress. I try to seen on Network device and there is nothing. Like I tell before on Z window I can see : On FLX Z System info DHCP: "No DHCP IP adresse" ArtNet : Device 1 Green pastille and Transmitting on IP 2.141.1.1 Net 0 Subnet 0 Universe 1, 2, 3, 4 0 Devices connected Capture ; Red Pastille Not transmitting No DHCP Adress... On Capture window Automatique (IP 169.254.1.189) I try to change IP and nothing possible DMX universes are OK and projector have Patch address with correct channels circuits. On MAC Preferences : Via DHCP  IPV4 :169.254.1.189 Subnet : 255.255.0.0

So Now I find how to change on FLX the Capture IP dress... But no find how to change the Art Net IP Adress....

I really dont understand things... And I dont find where to change IP adress on FLX... I go on Art net window, and try to enter IP on Net (not working) try on "Net option" and nothing work try on "Subnet option" and nothing work... So I don't know what to do... On FLX Z System info DHCP: "No DHCP IP adresse" ArtNet : Device 1 Green pastille and Transmitting on IP 2.141.1.1 Net 0 Subnet 0 Universe 1, 2, 3, 4 0 Devices connected Capture ; Red Pastille Not transmitting No DHCP Adress... On Capture window Automatique (IP 169.254.1.189) I try to change IP and nothing possible On MAC Preferences : Via DHCP IPV4 :169.254.1.189 Subnet : 255.255.0.0

Hello, I got your message. I have a straight cable. I was seeing in the link you gave me and indeed I was not going on the option "Art Net". But once I'm on the Art Net page of the FLX, there is a multitude of choices ... and what should I do for all the settings in question? Because I imagine only one option forgotten or poorly adapted and things may not work ... Window ART NET Option : - Transmit Art-Net - Transit Mode - Device 1 - Name "FLX" - Network switch - Net - Subnet - Port1 - Port 1 universe - Port 2 universe - Port 3 universe - Port 4 universe - Add Device CAPTURE side I will try to see in their mode of employment, because there once opened the Connection Option window, there is a lot of choice possible ... In workshop it is "IP Automatic" but also many options below the "IP Automatic" ... Thanks for your help, Eric

In 20 days I did 5 performance and Time after Time things go better ! so Next week I ve two more performance and week after one performance ... And everytime I can see that this FLX look to be thé right light commander ! thank for this Good production !

Ok i underdtand But I see tha schift + record it s a Quick step of différente option un record Windows so if i Wanr’t to use during a dance moving light on a other playback I can at this Time change option... i must experiment différents things ... so I did more attention about playback bouton and some Times there is one that swchitch on with out action from me I can really think that there a mystérious gosth on my desk. so now I go to bed bécause today i was recording about 245 cues

SO My Computer is also on WIFI betwen NetBox. with 192.168.1.69...

Hello I Need Help I m stil trying to connect FLX to Capture... Write on this Topic Thank for your help...

So I disconnect all and reconnect all and now stil yellow led on preference but IP change... It s now 169.254.167.116... and when I m going on Z "Info", there is - no DHCP IP adress - Not transmitting... Must I do something on Art Net configuration.... PS : Then I never have anyone who managed to make me understand the operation of IP addresses. I understand that each machine must be able to be identified, But when I connect things between her I go unfortunately still to great Hazard ... and I'm still galley. I already had this problem with Lanbox which also worked with IP address or USB ... And IP, I have rarely managed to connect IP ...

Salut Peter. Hello Peter, your French looks better than my English... Take care

Hello I bought two days ago Capture with two worlds, because that's what I'll use quite often. I managed to understand how Capture works. But now I'm blocking the connection between Capture and FLX. So I bought a thunderbolt / Ethernet cable, I have an Ethernet cable. I opened Capture, I at the patch allocated the projectors A.1 - A.20 - etc ... I have on the open FLX the things listed CAPTURE, But where I block it is at the table network (Preferences systems) the LED remains orange, as if the connection between the FLX and MACbookPro was not done ... Unfortunately I still have problems with all that is IP 169.254.115.162 with subnet 255.255.0.0 ... The LED remains yellow and indicates that the address is auto-assigned but can not access the Internet ... What should I do ? Thanks for the help

Bonjour à tous, Hello, Y a t'il des utilisateurs de FLX sur ce forum ? Are there any FLX users on this forum? Peut être que nous puissions nous retrouver en Français tout en assurant la traduction (Google ou autres) pour que les sujets puissent aider le plus grand nombre. Je suis une jeune utilisateurs de FLX, je n'ai maintenant depuis 15 jours. Maybe we can find ourselves in French while ensuring the translation (Google or others) so that the subjects can help the greatest number. I am a young FLX users, I have now for 15 days. Une bonne fin de semaine à vous tous, Amicalement, Eric A good weekend to you all, Sincerely, Eric

Maybe the solution is to have effects that are towards: Chase (different effect) Colors (changes or variation) Projector movements Gobo / prism As we can be certain when entering a menu, we can act directly. I do not have as much concern about the effects, but often I ask myself the question about an option, what will it play on ... And I think that if the buttons "Color", "Beam" "Shape" "Pos" we send on clear things, The button "effect" sends us on things less clear ... So it may be that by pressing on this bonton effect that we can have more certainty on what option will intervene. Thanks for your help !

Good evening, I recorded this solution (Auto Select Channel on Fader Movement mode off) In fact I may be able to keep this option when recording and turned off during shows ... Then I remember the color screen ... But it seems to me that the color was white ... But to be sure, I must check next time it will happen and if I can take a picture ... (if it is short of repetition because in spectacle the priority is to be able to put out the lights which could turn on by mistake) Then I expect to buy Capture to continue working with the control room without having installation ... (I asked for a Quote, certainly it is not given for my association, in view of the expenses already made with the FLX + Wings + touch screen, but on the other hand it can allow me to explore further the other functions of your desk. I hope as soon as possible to make videos in French to help and envy future users. Thanks for the help bring!

Hello, New question ... Sunday putting the boards back in their boxes, FLX and Jester 24/48, I could hear a noise in the Jester, as if there was a small screw or a small nut ... I wrote to Thomann, to know if I could open the console to verify that it is indeed a small screw or nut fell ... And he sent me a good return ... As I was able to tell them I have several shows to come ... and I find if it is indeed a small screw or nut, a large displacement of France / Germany .... Of course I do not want to blow the warranty ... But is it so complicated to open? I open regularly my MACBOOK PRO to remove the dust and I am careful to do only things that seem to me possible ... Thanks for your help... Eric

Hello, Thanks for your help. I will do it. Then the only trouble to do this is that to gain access to a projector, it will be necessary to alleviate the button (activation of the LED) then open the fader. This is two actions instead of one ... A bit of time wasting on a long encoding ... So if I understand correctly it is a great sensitivity of the Faders that makes that from time to time put the LED function of the MMF fader ? By cons what I do not understand is that during my first show, I had indeed the LED of a MMF button that was lit, but without I move the Fader, the intensity was mounted all alone at 30/35% (Fader was on Zero). And so I had to mount the Fader to reach the value of the intensity and to lower it to zero to turn off the projector on stage ... In fact it looks as if there was an invisilble order to turn on the LED + the projector on stage during the performance ... Thanks a lot for your help! Eric VDA

New topic on creating a more current record to better help new users. Indeed for a lot of things, there is a lot of novelty compared to basic instructions. And in general when we start we need a maximum of information and especially effective information. I understand that on the side of Zero 88 they work thoroughly on product evolutions, but they are not really in the desire to make records. (It's tedious and less interesting than taking care of new products and making the old products look bad ... Perhaps it would be wise to see with Zero 88 to open a contributory page of sharing or each user (at ease with English) could participate in the elaboration of a record that would always be up to date and that would follow the evolutions of the updates. (this would be validated by the team of Zero 88) I think that this could greatly help new users from all countries ... What do you think ? See you soon dear friends of the lighting ...

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