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OK, I have an answer, employing "secret sauce". If the console is in global cue only mode, this means that upon recording, tracking will be Cue Only, and fixtures that are on will be snapshotted. Therefore, to capture values for fixtures that are currently off (0%), you would need to do a full snapshot. So go into the cue, stop the effect, SHIFT+RECORD > type the cue number > ENTER > Overwrite. @Worcester RGSTech I hope this finally solves your issue!

If that’s the case, how does he record No Effect in Cue Only? This needs insider knowledge of ZerOS. Where is @Edward Z88 when you need him!

Did you use Fixture Tools 2.6 and save an ift file? It should just work… Can you elaborate more on what you did? Maybe upload your fixture file here and we can take a look. I see you started a new thread - maybe we can continue on that (but please avoid double-posting, you won’t get help any quicker…).

If you’re in cue-only mode then I thought the console records ‘everything’. In which case your ‘No Effect’ should have worked regardless. Maybe that’s not how ZerOS works! In cue-only I wonder if move on dark can ever work. Hmmm. Others more experienced with cue-only may know!

Somehow you have to get a "No Effect" instruction in there otherwise even if your next movers cue is at a new position, they'll just start dancing around that new position. I'm not familiar with Solution but as it's a "modern" ZerOS console (i.e. post Frog2/LF94/ORB) I would expect it to have Smart Tag, assuming you're not in "Cue Only" mode. So I'm not clear why your Record and Update options boxes don't show a usable Smart Tag button.

This is why we’re here! Keep asking/sharing and we’ll do our best. If you can help out another user - either directly by asking a question of your own which is answered, or more directly, then even better. That’s how this forum works, especially now the Vari-lite support is minimal.

Just to check, did you run the cue first and then apply the recipe?

@Worcester RGSTech can you upload your showfile then maybe one of us can have a play in Phantom. I’m not sure what the HEIC file you uploaded above is, my iPhone doesn’t recognise it.

ETA if my instructions are not clear, Edward documented the process in this paragraph (although again for FLX series). As he says, you might need to Track Forward, depending on where your cue is programmed/when you do the Update process:

@RJP @DMH @Alexandre Honestly, you'd have to try it. I don't think there were major database changes from 7.14.3 to 8.0, but support for relays was added. If you didn't use the new features in 8.0 like the new channels/playbacks/groups/palettes, then maybe there is a chance. Save your showfile and try it. Review the outline of the changes on this page. Other users may comment if they've tried to go backwards from 8.0 with a showfile.

To clarify, for Update you need to get up the options box to turn off SmartTag. For FLX this is press and hold the Update key.

Hi @Worcester RGSTech This is a common gotcha on ZerOS consoles. I don’t know the exact syntax on Solution, sorry, but assuming you have a fairly recent ZerOS then you need to Update the cue with [No Effect] with SmartTag turned off. GO your "dancing and lit" cue then GO your blackout cue (where the movers are dark but dancing). Select the fixtures of interest [No Effect] [Update] Turn off SmartTag Tap the Playback button holding that cue Almost certainly the blackout cue was recorded with SmartTag on in which case it doesn’t record the [No Effect] instruction, just the fixtures going to intensity 0. This means your fixtures keep dancing when they are dark. Yep Jon and Edward are gone but there are user-folk on here who can still help you.

Hi @SoleJan Blue UP to the sky, green DOWN to the grass. (Blue means that channel intensity went up, green it went down.) White, it's a blocking value, purple it's tracked. Red from the programmer (highest priority), yellow for some other controller. Red background is Parked. Grey background (for a short time) is moving on dark. They're all here: https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/desktops-windows/output-window#colours

Hi, This is probably a tagging issue. Are you trying to record the zoom change only and the fixture intensity is zero? Clear the programmer: CLEAR-CLEAR Change your zoom setting Press and hold RECORD until the record options box comes up Tap on SmartTag to make the stripe red Tap the required Playback button You should now find that the Playback (submaster in your words) moves the zoom - and only the zoom. If this achieves what you need then you should do some training on tagging and how SmartTag works. This is a video specifically on tagging, but it might be that you need some other backgrounders first if you're quite new to more advanced lighting consoles: Whole FLX S video training series:

@Veit0r fantastic! That’s great to hear. Hope your events go well! Thanks for letting us know. You know where we are if you have any other queries. As we’ve found there are some tricky areas. These consoles are a lot more powerful than they appear from the outside - they look a lot like a simple old-skool lighting desk but because of full support for tracking, move on dark, overlaying playbacks with LTP and HTP, it can very quickly require much more experience and familiarity with more advanced concepts. I’ve seen from other posts that this can confound, confuse and frustrate users who haven’t yet gained that knowledge and experience.