Jump to content
Zero 88 Community Support Forum

iank99

Regulars
  • Posts

    266
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    4

Everything posted by iank99

  1. From experience, the actual fact is that most "vintage" lanterns will survive PAT but not the person doing the test unless they're a theatre specialist - the normal PAT person will throw a wobbler at the old round pin plugs, no fuses in the plugs, no decent earth on the patch cords & be unable to properly test a theatre lantern. The only likely pitfall will be if you have old Strand Patt lanterns is that P28 lampholders are getting difficult to acquire so keeping them going is tough - not so much the newer bi post lamps. David is correct - you should be considering some LED lighting but the cost of swapping the whole rig over isn't going to work if the school have to fund it, the kit might be cheap (do NOT buy the cheapest - its false economy) but the infrastructure/power changes are not - a rough ball park would be around £250 per fixture when you cost i the fixture, an electrician and so on - that's using the existing wiring. It would make some sense to buy a handful of LED's to use for flood lighting to replace any conventional floods but replacement LED profiles aren't cheap & you always need a profile sooner or later. The desk replacement is going to be an issue too - you'll want something a 'naiive' user can operate without notice & this counts against PC based software so you're looking at something like FLX S but ideally the FLX because it gives more faders to control lights rather than just scenes - however, not cheap even with a decent discount. As you seem to be coming round to the idea of cleaning the existing kit - have the desk checked & serviced (it will likely need a new battery and perhaps at least one fader replacing) and check the dimmers are OK. Take a note of the numbers on their displays - the DMX address and do a factory reset on each then reset the addresses is all that Beta 3's generally need in a school installation. I can service the desk, David & Kevin can vouch for the quality of my work & I'm sure they could recommend a decent supplier of spare lamps, replacement plugs and so on to service the lantern stock. It will also be cheaper in the short/medium term whilst the school considers replacement - get some external advice & a couple of quotes from reliable suppliers for this - they WILL appreciate the schools situation.
  2. As one of my friends commented - ironic in the 50th year of Zero88
  3. Are the lights "intelligent" i.e. do they move around or have LED's that light up to change the colour they produce? If they're conventional lights like fresnels & profiles that take a lamp then they will be connected to some form of dimmer and that will have the address you need. Usually the dimmer address will be set via an LCD Keypanel, front panel rotary switches or internal DIP switches. If your installation is the latter then a simple 1 to 1 patch might suffice to get things running e.g. DMX channel 1 is patched to Desk Channel 1, DMX 2 to 2 and so on.
  4. What make are the LED fixtures? Are they "name" brand fixtures or chinese produced? I've had experience previously with Chinese fixtures that don't comply with the DMX standard (just enough to be DMX) and they will work happily wth controls & other fittings from the same factory but not with kit that does comply fully - like Zero88 kit. It also doesn't help if the fittings havre a 'Master/Slave" mode - this often means that the fittings are regenerating DMX however they see fit. The cynic inside me says that the chinese do this so that you 'have' to use the LED's with their controllers... Sadly, the symptoms are never the same but mostly can be flickering, colours sticking on or other DMX kit in the data chain not working. The only way around it is to either use a DMX Buffer that regenerates the DMX signal not just amplifies it so that the waveform is crisp, timings are spot on and the signal conforms to standard - usually the £40 buffers won't do this. The longwinded fix is to run two separate cable runs - one to the LED's & the other to your dimmers - you can use a buffer just after the desk to split the output but it's important not to have the LED's and dimmers on the same data chain. You should also as 'good practice' ensure that you have good mains earth integrity on the fittings, desk & dimmers - mains earth is also very often 'technical earth' or nought volts - if it floats high between the kit then that can also cause issues (it also needs to be noise free). Your data cables should only have pins 1 to 3 connected, they should not have any link between pin 1 and the case of the connectors (it still does happen and can itself cause issues) and the desk & fittings should ideally be on the same mains ring/spur so they share a common earth. I'd place a sticky bun on the issue not being the AlphaPack but the LED's or other fixtures on the chain from experience
  5. Having just had another mouthful of coffee and read my post back - it's fair to point out now that "legacy" now covers everything up to the current product range and I'm also authorised for warranty repairs on current kit.
  6. Terry - I'd be interested in helping to recycle the Jester ML or both - I'm an independent repair centre in the UK and whilst my "specialty" is notionally legacy Zero88 kit (think of Sirius backwards!) I am trying to accumulate a stock of encoders (which are common across Frog, Solution, Illusion & Jester) along wth button boards and displays for Jesters. I am always getting enquiries for spares for these desks and often have to disappoint for simple lack of supply - i'd be happy to cover cost of carriage for you to send the desks to me or you can drop them to me. Drop me a Message here or via my website The Service Guy
  7. Eric - I have no direct experience with USB on FLX but if you follow the same practice as for a PC... Buy a reasonably priced USB Hub with an external power supply - USB 3.0 will work with most versions of USB but the external power is the important part. As for ethernet extending - it's going to get complex I'm afraid... You will need to find some transceivers to convert the copper ethernet to fibre optic and some fibre cable to link them (plus the appropriate terminations). Something like the TP-Link MC200CM ? It MIGHT be possible to use WiFi if you have "line of sight" - there are several companies that supply specially designed antennae to keep the signal as a "tight beam" but not cheap. If the ethernet is going to be used indoors and you have secure accessible storage - it might be feasible to create a daisy chain of ethernet switches - don't use managed hubs but "dumb" switches to reduce the possibility of lag.
  8. "Double CT Orange" Pffft - what's wrong with 134 or 158 *grins*
  9. I'm in Coventry in the UK - WhiteLight in Wimbledon also offer Service. Not sure who else in the UK or Europe but @KWR88 will be along with an offer to pass you details of your nearest service centre soon I'm sure
  10. It's likely to be one of the USB devices - not all USB devices are created equal and the current draw on USB devices can vary wildly (and widely). If your configuration has been working then it might suggest that one of the devices is beginning to fail - if it's a new situation then it's likely that the Keyboard (it's often the keyboard) may draw too much current. "The USB specification allows for up to 500mA of current to be delivered from the USB port. Portable devices are increasingly using the USB power provided by a host computer to power the device system bus and to charge batteries." - Source This was a common problem back when LeapFrog/Solution was first launched and folks were plugging in the first keyboard they could find, their USB coffee warming and their iPad
  11. I've only seen one FLX so far with 'scratchy' faders and some Servisol Super 10 was successful in cleaning them - the other couple of FLX's I've been inside since Christmas, I didn't pay much attention to the fader PCBs but I would suspect that they're no different in size than the Frog & Solution equivalent fader boards (the faders are physically the same). As always, my advice to folks considering fader change - don't try it yourself unless you're 1. Very confident with a soldering iron 2. Have a decent soldering iron and de-solder tool - that £2.99 soldering iron from Laldl isn't probably the best option and 3. You're very confident in your own use of de-soldering tools. Yes - 1 & 3 are almost identical but it can't be stressed enough It's also very worth remembering that if your FLX is still within the 3 year warranty then your local dealer can repair the desk & Zero88 will support them in cost of parts & labour for the repair. If your dealer doesn't want to play ball with a warranty repair - then there are some independent service centres authorised to do warranty repairs too... Hint: you can contact me via my profile
  12. Indeed it should but without knowing the age of the kit involved.. Occam's Razor and all that
  13. Are you connecting your desk and PC via an ethernet switch or a direct cable? If it's a direct cable then it will need to be a "crossover" cable but if it's a switch then it should take care of that for you. That the two units aren't acknowledging each other might suggest a cable/connection issue?
  14. Indeed - for a 50m cable run, I'd expect an almost zero reading for impedance from experience. It sounds like a solder joint has gone bad or there's a cable break near the connectors causing intermittent high readings.
  15. iank99

    Load per socket

    Don't presume that at all - depending on the space, those cables could be made up from almost any cable they had around from 1.0mm to 2.5mm. The plug & socket being rated at 15a is a "designator" for commonality more than anything. It's vital that you check the size of the cable so that if it becomes a long cable run so that the circuit protection between the mains & the dimmer work reliably (it might be an earth leakage breaker or RCD), that the cable is rubber cased not PVC (PVC degrades quicker in use - running it a max load can become fun quickly if it's an old cable) & that it's the right size i.e. 1.5mm TRS such as this - Link to Stage Depot if the runs become longer than 20m then you should upgrade to 2.5mm so that all circuit protection still works.
  16. The main issue likely to occur in future is when the multi processor kernel for ZerOS gets enabled. The Orb mainboard has a dual core processor - the FLX has a quad core processor (if memory serves from a conversation with Jon Hole back before the FLX was officially released). At release, only a single core was enabled (impressive that ZerOS does all it does on a single core!) - this was probably to allow the Solution desks to still run. Jon thought that the second core might get enabled when more extensive features got included in ZerOS - we had been talking about the "stage mode" from the Sirius 250/500 where positions of moving lights could be remapped dynamically by the software according to a "map" of the performance area held by the desk. I think also that some sort of media server might be envisaged to allow "simple" projection via multi cell LED fixtures (a bit similar to how Pixelines were used by Oasis when they played Glastonbury in 2004). Aside from this - the only issue you're likely to have with an Orb now is going to be hardware support down the line. My gut feeling is to say if you can find an Orb for a stunningly low price, then buy it but otherwise - hold out and buy an FLX... To misquote Brian Potter from Phoenix Nights "FLX it's the future... "
  17. I'll offer the first page of my Orion Service Manual from my dealer service folder
  18. Not really - you can set channels to full power via the menu but it's not a pure mains waveform - just the dimmer running at 100%. It will reset to zero when you power cycle the rack too. There isn't an option with the 1210i to do "bypass" like on the newer racks which actually switches the triac out of circuit.
  19. It depends on the age of your Beta 3 - some of the first production batches did have issues with transformers failing, if you can post the serial number of the unit here - that will help identify it's age. I also have a couple of Beta 3's on my bench waiting repair where the opto isolator & it's output stage appear to have been damaged by flash testing - the unit powers up but there's no output from pairs of channels. Your profile doesn't show where you are but it might well be that your dimmer will need to be taken to your local Zero Service agent.
  20. Are you the same person that posted on The Blue Room as well? If so then my answer there still stands (if it's not you then my apologies) If it was you - my offer still stands, drop me an eMail and I'll send a copy of the internal test procedure document.
  21. @keredyelesobYour local Zero dealer should be able to help you with parts - the part you want is 1722-000006-00. If they can't help then I keep them in stock :)
  22. @keredyelesobthat's "typical" behaviour with a failed fader by the sounds of it - the PCB will need to be put in close proximity with a soldering iron and replacement fader. If you're confident with an iron - you can do it yourself or @KWR88 could recommend a service centre close to you
  23. From experience - it might be some dirt on each so a wee squirt of Servisol Super 10 on each won't go amiss then "work" the fader for a couple of strokes to move the dirt off the mucky spot. Switch cleaner is ok to use but the usual caveats apply - don't use one that leaves a film (so NOT WD40!!!!) and a squirt is of duration less than it takes you to count "one" - any more is wasted.
  24. @Tony_-_-_ Sorry to hear you've been dropped in it... We had similar with a school that we supplied when I worked with CTS - it turns out the technician that specified the kit initially had left the school, reset everything to default and took any notes with him which was sad because of the patching that the dimmers & fixtures had because of the school halls layout. As Jon says - it's certainly worth contacting the original supplier, they might well have matching notes/patches for your installation however don't hold your breath on this (again from experience). Best to start gathering information now (pictures help a lot too!) of the dimmers in use, what the lights are (are they conventional i.e. lamps or LED's) and do you have any overly sized units (moving heads). It might also help to give an indication of where you are - there plenty of regular contributors here who might turn out to be "local" to you and happy to come help out for a cuppa or a small fee
  25. iank99

    3D view

    There isn't a program in the Zero88 software stable but any "visualiser" program would do the job I suspect, they take DMX from the desk and display a representation of the scene's you're building. However.... The visualisers aren't cheap, they don't work "out of the box" - they do need a lot of setting up i.e you need to declare the fixtures/luminaires you're using, where they're located in the performance (height, angle of throw, field angle of the fixture) and setup attribute definitions and DMX addresses. I suspect given that you're asking about an ML24 yours will be a relatively small rig so you might not get the value out of the visualiser that a full size concert designer would? If you're regularly going to light in spaces that you don't have access to before your show arrives - there might be some benefit to a visualiser but I personally have doubts about that.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.