DRP Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 Intensity values may be dispayed in in blue, red, white, purple.... Sometimes the meaning is obvious, sometimes not. I'd really value a table showing the implication of each colour. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 Hi @DRP 38 minutes ago, DRP said: Intensity values may be dispayed in in blue, red, white, purple.... Sometimes the meaning is obvious, sometimes not. I'd really value a table showing the implication of each colour. Thanks! Please see the link below... https://zero88.com/manuals/zeros/desktops-windows/output-window Hope this helps, Edward Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRP Posted October 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 Thanks for the quick reply. I can't find anything in the manual when I search for "Blocked value". Would you explain, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, DRP said: Thanks for the quick reply. I can't find anything in the manual when I search for "Blocked value". Would you explain, please. A blocked value is one that stops any tracking ("purple" value) from an earlier cue. If you record a cue using SHIFT+RECORD then you will get a "snapshot" cue which records everything and thus blocks tracking and effectively restarts any tracking from that snapshot cue. The downside of snapshot (blocking) cues is they also block Move On Dark which is not usually a good thing if you have anything mechanical which needs to "prep" for a later cue. Examples are moving lights, colour scrollers, gobo rotators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 Hello, A “Blocked” intensity value, indicated in white, is a value which is recorded in a cue, that is identical to the value recorded in the previous cue. The intensity is therefore told to go to the value it is at already. A “Tracked” intensity value, indicated in purple, is a value which has not been given a new instruction by a cue, and is therefore still the same value it was in the previous cue. Hope this helps, Edward Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 Wot he said ^^^^^ 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, kgallen said: Wot he said ^^^^^ 🤣 It still baffles me when we just so happen to reply at an identical time in the evening 😂 And yep, good point - you’ll probably get blocked intensity values from recording a Snapshot cue, if you have not manually changed values from the previous cue. Edward Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said: It still baffles me when we just so happen to reply at an identical time in the evening 😂 We're equally sad. It freaked me out as after my reply the thread said it was unread and you'd edited it at *exactly* the same time. And so you had...! ...and I hadn't arrived here from an email notification, just happened to refresh the page, so it's not like we both got the email and decided to reply! Spoooky... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, kgallen said: We're equally sad. 8 minutes ago, kgallen said: Spoooky... Indeed 😂 Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidmk Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just so happens I had purple intensity values myself this evening. I don't normally use cue stacks, much less blocking cues, but it happens that I had added a rainbow effect to a stack of cues and the purple values came up when it was running so, I'm guessing, that an effect cue operates like a blocking cue. Am I right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRP Posted October 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Many thanks for the reply in stereo.😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Hi David, 9 hours ago, Davidmk said: Just so happens I had purple intensity values myself this evening. I don't normally use cue stacks, much less blocking cues, but it happens that I had added a rainbow effect to a stack of cues and the purple values came up when it was running so, I'm guessing, that an effect cue operates like a blocking cue. Am I right? Let's say you turned your LED fixtures on, and then recorded this as cue 1. Then, the next thing you do, is apply a rainbow effect to the LED fixtures, and record this as cue 2. At the point of recording cue 2, you didn't tell the fixtures to turn on. You didn't need to, as they were on already. Therefore the intensity of these fixtures is displayed as purple in cue 2, showing these fixtures have not been given an update to their intensity value in this cue. Hope this helps, Edward Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Extra information added here... https://zero88.com/manuals/zeros/desktops-windows/output-window#colours Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidmk Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said: Let's say you turned your LED fixtures on Hmm, yes except I didn't turn them on in the programmer. I have sub masters for the intensities. I just assumed that the rainbow effect was colour and intensity and that was where the purple intensity value came from. I'll have to look later. Not important, just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Davidmk said: I didn't turn them on in the programmer. I have sub masters for the intensities. When SmartTag is enabled, ZerOS essentially brings those intensities from your playback into the programmer at the point of recording. If it didn't, they wouldn't get recorded, as per the behaviour when SmartTag is disabled. Therefore when SmartTag is enabled, if you bring up the intensity using a playback, they will be recorded into the cue, but if there is then no change in intensity to record cue 2, the intensity will "track" from cue 1. Hope this helps, Edward Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidmk Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Edward Z88 said: if you bring up the intensity using a playback, they will be recorded into the cue Well that's definitely not what I want so perhaps I need to check this out. What I'm trying to do is have a playback that is just colours and control intensity on faders. The colour cues are triggered, out of sequence, using midi. I've been doing this successfully for months but I was making changes to the cues and adding effects to the stack. Another thing to check out. I'm in the theatre for the next 3 days so I can use a real rig instead of Capture. Thanks for the input though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Davidmk said: What I'm trying to do is have a playback that is just colours and control intensity on faders. For this, you will definitely want to make sure SmartTag is disabled. This will allow you to have one playback just for intensity, and another playback just for colours. Edward Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidmk Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said: For this, you will definitely want to make sure SmartTag is disabled. I may have it off by default, can't remember. I'll look at that as well. As I said it's been working the way I want for ages but I'd like to understand it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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