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  1. Hi Tom,

    11 hours ago, Tom1234 said:

    is there a way to see how many channels a fixture is taking up from the desk or would one have to read that from the light display screen. 

    When patching fixtures into the Jester, the number of channels used by a fixture is usually displayed at the end of the fixture's name. For example "12Ch". 

    Edward

  2. Hi @Tom1234

    12 hours ago, Tom1234 said:

    when looking on the fixture library, I realise that this light is not on the list. I there a way of adding it? 

    Yes there is - your best option is to email a link to your fixture's English manual to fixturesupport@zero88.com. We will then be able to provide you with a fixture file for you to load into your Jester ML24.

    It is worth noting that if your fixture has a simple mode such as 3-channel RGB, you will be able to use the simple LED fixtures that are included in the Jester ML24. These can be found in Assign Fixtures -> Add Fixtures -> Fixture Library -> Standard Fixtures -> Conventionals

    If you have any questions, please let us know.

    Edward

  3. Hi @MikeF

    Welcome to the Zero 88 Forum.

    1 hour ago, MikeF said:

    Most of our fixtures work fine but we have two particular types (LEDJ performer 36 LEDs and ETC Colour Spots) where we can't set the fixture colour using the colour palette, we can only do it using the encoder wheels (RGB). This is ok if you want to save the setting as a cue but not so convenient if you want to change colours on the fly during a live gig. Any suggestions please as to how we can control these from the colour palette?

    Incidentally, I've noticed these fixtures were patched historically by others using personalities which were not part of the zero88 libarary (as they appear in red in the "add fixture" menu on the FLX console). Not sure whether that would have an impact?

    The first thing to do is to regenerate the automatically created colour palettes. To do this, tap the COLOUR key to access the Colour window. In the palettes tab, scroll down, and then click Automatically Create Colour Palettes. Please then try the automatic palettes with your fixtures.

    If the palettes are still not working, it could well be due to the fact the fixtures are from an early fixture library version, or are custom fixture files with limited information. The ColorSource Spots are definitely in the latest ZerOS Library. In Setup -> Fixture Schedule, ZerOS will provide you with the ability to "convert" the fixtures in red text, to the latest versions of the fixtures from the console's library. Please see the link below for more information...

    https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/patching/fixture-schedule/change-fixture

    If you are still having difficulty with your fixtures, please email your show file to support@zero88.com, and we can make sure you are using the most up to date versions of your fixtures.

    1 hour ago, MikeF said:

    Finally, is it possible to view and edit the fixture personalities stored in the console? I've downloaded the Fixture Editing software and can see how to create new personalities and edit those downloaded from the zero88 fixture library on your site (and load them to the console) but can't see how to export fixture personalities from the console for viewing or editing?

    Yes it is - fixtures can be edited or created directly on the console. This functionality was introduced in the latest software. To find the software version currently running on the console, tap the Z button, and from the touchscreen choose "System Information". In the window that opens, will be a line of text displaying the "Software Version". The latest software version for FLX consoles is ZerOS 7.13. If you're not running ZerOS 7.13, I'd recommend updating your console's software. ZerOS 7.13 can be downloaded from the link below...

    https://zero88.com/zeros#download

    For more information on the ZerOS Fixture Creator, see the link below...

    https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/patching/add-fixtures/fixture-creator

    I hope this helps. If you have any questions, please let me know.

    Edward

  4. Hi Steve,

    Hope you're well.

    2 hours ago, Gingersteve91 said:

    Since updating to this version (7.13) we've noticed some of our DMX values have flipped in some of our fixtures, was this intentional? 

    2 hours ago, Gingersteve91 said:

    Just wondering if this is a bug or intentional?

    The issue was actually with ZerOS 7.10 software. ZerOS 7.10 was sometimes not correctly inverting parameters. In our library data, the specific parameters you mention of these fixtures are inverted. When it comes to P/T Speed, this is because ZerOS uses the logic that a higher value on the encoders results in a higher movement speed.

    2 hours ago, Gingersteve91 said:

    I had to update quite a few palettes and Default/Home values to account for these changes.

    Upon loading the ZerOS 7.10 show file into ZerOS 7.13, ZerOS should have continued to use the show file fixtures, rather than using the latest library fixtures. This means that the fixtures will have operated how they did in ZerOS 7.10. The Fixture Schedule then allows show file fixtures to be converted to the latest version of the fixtures from the console's library, with the caveat that the newer versions of the fixtures may be different.

    I hope this helps. If you have any questions, please let me know.

    Edward

  5. Hi @Davidmk

    1 hour ago, Davidmk said:

    Edit: Oops, just realised that this is already in the list a "looks" pallettes.

    Yep - these are referred to as "Looks" palettes in the list. These are sometimes known as "Preset" palettes.

    Currently, if you wish to record a "look" palette, you can hold SHIFT and tap RECORD, and then tap any empty palette in any attribute.

    Edward

  6. Salut @delfine,

    J'espère que vous allez bien.

    Il est extrêmement difficile de rétrograder les versions iOS/iPadOS. Ce n'est pas quelque chose que nous recommandons de faire.

    iOS 16 est compatible avec les applications ZerOS. Nous pensons donc que l'iPadOS 16 sera compatible, mais nous ne pouvons pas encore le garantir.

    Si vous avez besoin d'un "écran" bon marché pour exécuter l'application Z Monitor, un vieil iPad ou tablette Android d'occasion ferait l'affaire. L'application Z Monitor est compatible avec iOS 9, qui était la version finale du logiciel pour les iPad tels que l'iPad 2.

    Si vous souhaitez pouvoir contrôler la console via l'application, un ordinateur portable Windows d'occasion vous permettrait également d'exécuter l'application Z Monitor, en plus d'offrir la possibilité d'utiliser des raccourcis clavier.

    Si vous avez des questions, veuillez nous en informer.

     

    Hi Delfine,

    I hope you're well.

    It is extremely difficult to downgrade iOS/iPadOS versions. This is not something we would recommend doing.

    iOS 16 is compatible with the ZerOS apps. We therefore believe iPadOS 16 will be compatible, however cannot yet guarantee this.

    If you need a cheap "screen" to run the Z Monitor app, an old second-hand iPad or Android tablet would do the job. The Z Monitor app is compatible with iOS 9, which was the final software release for iPads such as iPad 2. 

    If you want to be able to control the console through the app, a second-hand Windows laptop would also allow you to run the Z Monitor app, plus provide the ability to use keyboard shortcuts.

    If you have any questions, please let us know.

    Edward

  7. Hi Kevin,

    6 minutes ago, kgallen said:

    From how you word this above I'm concluding that tagging is not enough to get the data onto the type "B" fixtures, it really is necessary to nudge each colour to make the absolute values snap onto all selected fixtures?

    If you "Tag" an attribute (CLEAR + COLOUR), this simply means the attribute's parameters will get recorded in their current values.

    To apply the first selected fixture's parameter values to the rest of the selected fixtures, you then need to nudge the encoders. This process automatically tags the colour parameters.

    Edward

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  8. Hi Kevin,

    15 hours ago, kgallen said:

    So from your reply I’m guessing there is no easier way to tag all colour parameters than nudging every colour encoder

    To tag all colour parameters, you can press and hold CLEAR and tap COLOUR. However, this simply tags the parameters. It will not change their current values.

    17 hours ago, kgallen said:

    currently on ZerOS, if we programme a (colour) palette for light type "A" we can't apply it to light type "B".

    11 minutes ago, kgallen said:

    I have asked before 😁. But you’re right it’s probably not on that list but you might find a ZOS for it already!

    The ability to use a recorded palette for other fixture types not included in the palette, is logged on our system as reference number ZOS-3718. I have logged the thoughts from this thread.

    Let us know if you have any questions.

    Edward

  9. Hi @kgallen

    21 minutes ago, kgallen said:

    What's the easiest/most reliable way to update a (user) type "A" colour palette so it can be applied to light type "B" when doing prep offsite - i.e. all of the fixtures to be used aren't rigged/attached/operational.

    If a palette has been recorded with one fixture type, and you need it to work for another fixture type, it is a case of tagging the new fixture type, and updating the palette, so that the palette now has information for the new fixture type too.

    21 minutes ago, kgallen said:

    The only thing I can think of is:

    1. Select both type "A" and type "B" on the desk (and set non-zero intensity)
    2. Apply the colour palette (that will only currently work for type "A")
    3. "nudge" one of the colour encoders - will this cause the other RGBW values to snap onto the type "B" lights?
    4. UPDATE the colour palette (so it now has data for type "A" and type "B" lights)

    The crux is step 3. What's the best thing to do here without having to redefine the entire colour "blind" for the type "B" fixtures?

    This process makes sense if you want to apply one fixture's colour values to another fixture type, and then update the palette.

    The order of selection is important. You must select type A first. That way, when you nudge the Red encoder for example, the Red parameter of all selected fixtures will snap to the absolute value of the first selected fixture. You can then nudge Green, Blue and White too, so that if the type B fixtures have these parameters too, they will snap to match the first selected fixture's values. Once all the required fixtures have tagged colour parameters, you can then update the palette. To do this tap UPDATE, and tap the palette onscreen, or use the syntax UPDATE COLOUR x ENTER. There's no need to add intensity to the fixtures when doing this, but if you have them connected you'll probably want to so you can see what you're doing!

    Hope this helps,

    Edward

  10. Hi Kevin,

    23 minutes ago, kgallen said:

    One suggestion for a new one would be "Explosion" as a new Colour Effect - deep red baseline with whites flashing rapidly across the top  (would work over a number of LED PARs for example). I will maybe persevere a little more with "Red Sparkle" but any suggestions to achieve that effect welcome!

    We could certainly look at adding more automatic effects. For this one, I would also use "Red Sparkle", but maybe go to colour, and dial down the "base level" of red slightly. You can then play with the random auto-offset button, to get a random order you're happy with. You could also apply a "Candle" effect over the top for a bit of intensity variation.

    28 minutes ago, kgallen said:

    Whilst I happily understand sine functions and all the rest, this engine is still a little bit of "black magic" and "luck", it's not at all intuitive, particularly as there is no "waveform viewer" to understand how the waveforms. offsets and size are combined to generate the results. I acknowledge that the maths under the hood is being applied to spec, but the net result at the fixture is something of bemusement! Also that screen is extremely fiddly - the fields are so very small to get at with your finger...!

    As you know, a "new" effects engine is something we're keen to implement, which you've already voted for in the "wish-list" thread. The waveforms window is currently the only area of ZerOS that is still best to use with a mouse on the external monitor.

    Edward

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  11. Hi Kevin,

    29 minutes ago, kgallen said:

    But no fixtures with a (cool) white emitter? (Or is that the "C" on the Strand fixtures?)

    We have tested on standard RGBW fixtures as well. The "C" emitter is Cyan.

    29 minutes ago, kgallen said:

    on the internal screen if you get towards the end (like I was doing with the Sat fader), it jumps about like crazy with big changes in fixture response. It is a screen I've not used much before, but I've now got a new-found interest in it as it was very useful in the respect of adjusting "Sat" for example.

    Using the internal touchscreen, the onscreen colour faders seem to be tracking finger movement pretty accurately. If you're not seeing this, would you be able to capture a video of this and email it to me?

    Edward

  12. 11 hours ago, Gerran said:

    Unfortunately the colours from the LEE library still don't match the expected colour output.

    1 hour ago, kgallen said:

    I find the (Lee) swatch colours very pale as they seem to contain a lot of the white emitter - although I don’t know if this is different to before.

    2 hours ago, kgallen said:

    Of course by fixtures aren’t colour calibrated as they are ‘cheap’ so by no means am I a reference here.

    As @kgallen mentions, the accuracy of the colour filters ultimately comes down to the fixtures. We have done testing with both our Acclaim series (RGBL engine), and our Aurora/Cantata/Coda/Leko fixtures (RGBALC engine), which give good results.

    The colour filter values were updated in ZerOS 7.11, so there is a good chance they look different compared to earlier software. In ZerOS 7.11, all colour filters were updated to use the latest information from LEE and Carallon, our fixture database provider.

    1 hour ago, kgallen said:

    Side question - I used the colour faders screen quite a bit (like the Sat slider) - and it was very useful - but it’s very sensitive: can these controls be brought down onto the encoders?

    I've personally not found the faders window to be too sensitive, however I do like the idea of being able to use the encoder wheels to adjust these faders. I have logged this suggestion, reference number ZOS-11157.

    Let us know if you have any questions.

    Edward

  13. Hi @Kauz

    12 hours ago, Kauz said:

    Ok, understood. If I understand your proposal right, you would creat an alternative "Grand Master", but this does not allow an actual exclusion from the original Grand Master / Black Out.

    That is correct - you could essentially create your own Grand Master using an Inhibit playback, and then disable the "real" Grand Master control by deleting it.

    12 hours ago, Kauz said:

    Is there a way to create a fixture without intensity parameter, just with an attribute? Would this do the job?

    Yes - if you create a fixture without an intensity parameter, it will not be affected by the Grand Master. This would mean that you couldn't control the fixture with a Channel fader.

    However, you could patch a "Non Dim" fixture. To do this, tap SETUP -> Add Fixtures -> Generic -> Non Dim -> Default Off -> Next>. Then set the fixture's number, and DMX address, and click Finish.

    Then, tap SETUP to save and close, select the fixture, and tap BEAM. You can then dial the "Connected Load" parameter to full, tap RECORD, and then tap an empty playback fader. Then, press and hold SETUP, and tap that playback's button. Under "Fader Controls...", enable Beam, so it has a red stripe. You can then click OK.

    This playback fader can then be used to set the output level of this DMX channel, which will not be inhibited by the Grand Master.

    I hope this helps. Let us know if you have any questions.

    Edward

  14. Hi @terryb

    2 hours ago, terryb said:

    It got very late last night! However I am at home and ploughing through all the previous update information. I managed to update a few fixtures, but a lot are still refusing! However we have a lot of these!

    https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1008612/Ledj-Quad-Par-64.html#manual

    As our desk is used sporadically we can miss upgrades. I prefer not to do them too close to a show for obvious reasons. Many thanks for your help so far but I fear it isn't over yet. We tend to use a lot of 'disco' great because the venue is very small and theatre fixtures are too narrow.

    This appears to be a duplicate post. Please see my responses in my previous reply.

    Edward

  15. Hi @Takuya Chinen,

    2 hours ago, Takuya Chinen said:

    The monitors are blacked out and they are not reboot. On FLX S48 keeps flashing the LED of MFFs buttons and LED of the page number keeps circling on FLX full board. I have tried to launch test mode and follow the rebooting process on the manual but, it does not work on both console.

    It sounds like you may have managed to install a corrupt version of ZerOS 7.13 onto your consoles.

    If you are now unable to boot your consoles normally, they will need to be recovered. Please delete the original copy you installed, and then download a fresh copy of ZerOS 7.13 from the link below...

    https://www.zero88.com/storage/downloads/ce1b318a-ab8f-44f6-ab43-8b90b50c6132/ZerOS-7.13.exe

    Firstly, please try accessing the ZerOS Start-Up Tool, which will allow you to perform a fresh installation of the console's software. Please see the link below, for information on accessing and using the ZerOS Start-Up Tool...

    https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/trouble-shooting/zeros-startup-tool

    If you cannot access the ZerOS Start-Up Tool, you should be able to recover the FLX console using the installation method described here...

    https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/software-updates/zeros-usb-creator

    If you cannot access the ZerOS Start-Up Tool on FLX S48, the internal storage card will need to be re-flashed. Please email your console's serial number to support@zero88.com, and we will then be able to advise the best steps to get the console up and running.

    If you have any questions, please let us know.

    Edward

  16. Hi @terryb

    9 minutes ago, terryb said:

    However we have a lot of these!

    Please click the link below, to download the fixture file for the LEDJ Quad Par 64...

    https://www.zero88.com/fixtures/legacy-library/Legacy library (gft41.0)/LEDJ/Quad Par 64.ift

    Once downloaded, save the file to a USB drive, and plug into your console. Then on the console tap SETUP -> Load, and choose the fixture file to load in. Once loaded, you can then find and patch this fixture in Add Fixtures.

    11 minutes ago, terryb said:

    I managed to update a few fixtures, but a lot are still refusing!

    If there are fixtures you need help with, please just let us know, and we can point you towards the best version of the fixture to use.

    Edward

  17. Hi @Kauz

    13 hours ago, Kauz said:

    the channel's output value must be controlled by means of a fader, but may not be influenced by blackout and grandmaster. Is there a way to achieve this?

    If you patch a fixture with an Intensity parameter, this will always be governed by the Grand Master (unless parked).

    If there are certain fixtures you want to be controlled by the Grand Master, and some fixtures you don't want to be controlled by the Grand Master, your best option would be to configure an "Inhibit" playback. You could then use the Inhibit playback as the Master fader for certain lights.

    To do this, set all the fixtures you wish to be controlled by a Master fader to full. Then tap RECORD, and tap an empty playback. Then hold SETUP, and tap this playback's button. In the Playback Settings, set the Intensity Mixing to Inhibit, and click OK. This fader will now act as an Intensity master for all the fixtures you just recorded. It must be raised to achieve light output. Fixtures that were not recorded to this playback, will not be inhibited by it.

    You can then choose to disable the console's Grand Master if you wish. On FLX, this can be done by tapping DELETE -> BLACKOUT -> ENTER.

    I hope this helps. If you have any questions, please let us know.

    Edward

  18. Hi @kgallen

    11 hours ago, kgallen said:

    This ‘upgrade’ process - how does that relate to user fixture profiles implemented using the legacy Fixture Tool? If they’ve been implemented using the correct colour detail metadata will they work properly using 7.13 and the auto palettes, gel palettes, mood board and colour picker (talking full FLX here)?

    Fixtures in the .ift format with subtractive colour mixing will not be applied to the Colour Filters, due to a change that was required in ZerOS 7.11 software. All other colour mixing tools will continue to work.

    (This is related to how ZerOS supports subtractive "Cyan" dichroic colour flags, and also additive "Cyan" emitters).

    Fixtures in the .ift format with additive colour mixing will work as expected.

    If you have any questions, please let me know.

    Edward

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  19. Hi @terryb

    15 hours ago, terryb said:

    Would clearing the fixtures and reinstalling them clean be simpler way of doing it?

    Yes - if you want to start a fresh show file, you can delete your "legacy" fixtures from the Fixture Schedule. Then, you can tap SETUP -> Clear Options -> Clear Fixture Files, to remove all fixture files from the console that aren't currently in use. You can then patch your fixtures in from scratch from Add Fixtures.

    Don't forget - upon deleting fixtures, you remove information for these fixtures from your cues. This operation therefore cannot be undone.

    15 hours ago, terryb said:

    our RGBW LEDj PARs are coming up as RGBA which means the colours are wrong

    If you can only find a RGBA variant in the library, it sounds like the RGBW variant is missing. Please could you provide a manual for your LEDJ LED PARs? I can then provide you with the best fixture file to use.

    If you have any questions, please let me know.

    Edward

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